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yep I just mean that the message from Lampard will certainly be, for now, we need 4 points.

If Leeds lose, of course, it all changes.
Well we need to win at least one of the home games just for some hope for next season. We could lose all the next 3 games and there's still a decent chance we'll stay up, but i can't see anyone celebrating that.
 
4 points is all we need the absolutely max, which is easier said than done, so Hopefully we get 3 of those Sunday which as we know could even have us safe Sunday night, last thing we need is to be going into the final game needing something
 
We're up to our neck in something brown and stinking. However, Leeds are up to their nose and standing on tip toes.

leeds are just where we were the other month, everything going wrong (own goals, mistakes, red cards etc) but their problem is there are only two games left for them

and they have a coach who thinks gandhi quotes will help
 
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Leeds will be playing with real desperation so they can't be ruled out. It's a toss up game as far as I see. Any of the 3 outcomes are very possible.

What matters though is that we control our own destiny, we have two winnable home games coming up, and have more points on the board. We need to focus on ourselves, because a win on Sunday and we aren't going down.

I agree with the second part.

For the first, Leeds tried to play with real depseration the last 2 games and got walloped, had a man sent off early in both and looked like their legs were filled with concrete. They are rancid.
 

Yeah but you're ignoring that we face 13th placed Brentford who are far superior to 9th placed Brighton who just beat Man Utd 4-0 and have the 5th best away record in the league!

I've learned over the last few months to steer clear of the Everton part of the forum because everybody else in the relegation fight is prime Barcelona plus extra voodoo meaning they are "due" to buck all form and beat teams who won't be arsed to play against them. That's why they're in a relegation fight. Meanwhile, everybody is extra special super motivated to beat Everton and get mysteriously better the week before they have to play us.

We're an average Premier League team woefully short on confidence and prone to mental errors. We've been better the last 6 weeks especially at home and I think we've got kinder fixtures and less key injuries than our rivals, we also have more points and an extra game. I really think Leeds are boned come kick off for us on sunday.
 
The night we lost, ludicrously, at Burnley was the night I girded my loins and accepted that if we were to have any chance of survival we were going to have to go through an agonising ordeal before it would be secured.

Right now, we are enduring the agony.

I'm just surprised so many fans seemed to be of the notion that we would go on some mad heroic surge and we could relax for the last three games of the season. It's ordeal time! Embrace it!

The aim all along has been to get safe - ideally before the last day. We are on track to do that. Twists and turns were and are guaranteed. We have a very poor group of players - who will need to be purged in the summer - and a very inexperienced manager who is fighting for his reputation, continued employment, and the right to rebuild this club. We are not a really good side with a really experienced manager going through a bad patch. Lampard is learning every day. His pragmatism was late to the party - and he erred on the side of caution last night - but he's given himself every chance with two home games to come. It's as much as we could have hoped for that night at Turf Moor.
 

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