Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[nsno-chris]

Sacking him now will get the fans back onside.

If the fans see the club don't accept what is going on then they will have a hell of a lot more faith than they do now.

This is the difference of sacking him now, the correct thing to do

 

[Doolstar70]

Not as high as the cost of keeping them will be.

I agree, he has to go. Just wondering how much it will reduce our transfer budget by.

 

[Dixie D]

He never finished above the bottom 6 I think. And yes that's Wigan, OK, but they were actually showing some promise when they came up with Paul Jewell and then Steve Bruce.

I still can't quite understand how loads of us got taken in so easily(myself included)...thinking he could, with our better player's get us flying up the league
Fair play to the people who called him out from the start by the way....Doff's cap
I suppose under all those years listening to dull Moyes got us all wet & creamy when el Fraudo took over & started spurting positive stuff!!!
Hopefully one thing this has taught some of us (again myself included) is that...this time whether tomorrow, after the semi or at the end of the season....this time we need to employ a proven winner!!!

 

[nsno-chris]

I agree, he has to go. Just wondering how much it will reduce our transfer budget by.

Not very much. I'll stick my house on it that his performance will replicate his severance, he'll have targets that he his clearly not meeting

 

[GwladysBlue]

The worst thing about this result, is that we all knew that I was coming.

 

[jceverton]

I don't see any real point in sacking him before the end of the season. It won't achieve anything, imo. We should wait until the end of the season.

Really??? Well he should have been sacked weeks ago and the point was this we'd of had a better chance of winning a trophy for the first time in 21 years.

 

[DrEFC]

I recognise the point you and others are making, especially the bit about the bad atmosphere, so maybe it does make sense to sack him before the season ends. I'm just not sure having no manager at all is a great option either.

How can it harm? We'll not be organised? We won't win games? We will look directionless and show no effort or passion? We will not know how to position ourselves for crosses and set pieces?
As I said before- I will not set foot in Goodison till he's gone. I've never felt like that with a previous manager. We are in relegation form with 3/4 of an England backline, and one of the hottest young striking talents in world football. He simply cannot be allowed to leave his losing cowardly stench on this team for the preseason. If he cannot get his first team motivated for a derby what chance do we have?

 

[Doolstar70]

Not very much. I'll stick my house on it that his performance will replicate his severance, he'll have targets that he his clearly not meeting

I do hope so. It would be a shame to finally get some investment and have to waste it on getting rid of a lame duck manager.

 

[Yankfootball1]

Been one of the longest defenders, Impossible - He has to go. I would want it tonight. Put Stubbs/Duncan in charge through the end of the year.

That said - the players are a disgrace as well.

Unsworth not Stubbs. I was so mad after the game I couldn't think straight....

 

[Mickey]

The thing is, as much as you can criticise the players tonight, and they do carry blame, it's been said for weeks that they can't work miracles here.

Lukaku had no support all game again. All he could do is win long balls but half the time no one was near him. Our wingers and am start in their own half constantly, so have to cover 30 40 yards every time we attack, so when it breaks down its because there is too many men behind the ball. When we do break, the two men behind them are nowhere to be seen, and when they are it's to pass the ball near the half way line.

Our full backs have no cover going forward, and no cover when they are back. Our centre halves have no cover when defending a flat defence because neither holding midfielder are supporting them in there. Not only that but there is no defensive lines in there either everyone just seems to cover the space they are near like we don't practice that. We don't practice set pieces or crosses, we don't play to our strikers strengths and the midfield always seems to be 30 yards away from each other whenever it matters.

The way the team play is a joke, it holds the players back from actually performing because even if they actually turn up to try like it looked tonight they are left so exposed and clueless as to what is going on that we have to rely on the other team being poor to not get beat.

How many times did an RS players pick the ball up 25-30 yards from our goal and not one of our players near them?. It's like we got a flat back 8 when we defend it's ridiculous.

 

[wainy]

Stubbs. Jesus

 

[caught]

The worst thing about this result, is that we all knew that I was coming.

It was certainly a distraction for me...

 

[DrEFC]

Not so much as a supporter, but we have semi appearance, it would be daft to get rid at this point and if by some miracle it all slots together and we go onto lift the cup, its phase one complete etc. Though he was always going to get caught out for depth for CBs. However, if we capitulate again he should go Saturday evening.

You've just literally said it would be a miracle for it to come together? Phase one of what?

 

[nsno-chris]

The worst thing about this result, is that we all knew that I was coming.

True, but I never expected a performance like that in a derby. That's the shocking aspect which proves that he's lost virtually everything around him.

Never I witnessed such a gutless display in such a big game.

I'm upset more than fume, proper sick at the lacklustre effort

 

[jceverton]

The worst thing about this result, is that we all knew that I was coming.

The first time I've deliberately not watched a derby match in over thirty years. I knew it was coming but couldn't bring myself to watch it. He should have been sacked weeks ago and it's just becoming a farce now.