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Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

Martinez in or out?

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  • Getting splinters eating cheese on toast on the fence

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Papa Shango said:
Impressive post you made there but I have to pull you and whoever else up on this part.

Since Martinez took over... (BM being before Martinez and AM being After)

John Stones
BM Promising young lad from Barnsley, predominantly played at right back with no top flight games.
AM England regular subject of a big money bid from one of the "biggest" clubs around.

Ross Barkley
BM A bit of an enigma who could barely get a game at Sheffield Wednesday. Was in and around the first team squad at best.
AM A key player for Everton and a regular England international.

Romelu Lukaku
BM Always a goalscorer but lacking in his all round game and hung out to dry by his former manager to the point where he was no longer wanted by a "big" club
AM Still a great goalscorer but with a much better all round game. His touch has improved massively (ignoring last week...) and has value has doubled. Now wanted by "big" clubs.

Brendan Galloway
BM Playing on and off for MK Dons
AM Made a name for himself at the start of the season and showed that he can fill in at left back. His stock his risen under Martinez.

And thats before we look at the less obvious young players like Besic who had the worst possible start to his Everton career imaginable, Robles who is coming on week by week and Deulofeo who was on the scrap heap in Spanish football.
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So if all these individuals have improved so much, why are we worse off league positioning and as a team. Not having a go at you personally, just making a statement. In my eyes we have talented individuals but our manager can't fit them into a team.
 
Papa Shango said:
Impressive post you made there but I have to pull you and whoever else up on this part.

Since Martinez took over... (BM being before Martinez and AM being After)

John Stones
BM Promising young lad from Barnsley, predominantly played at right back with no top flight games.
AM England regular subject of a big money bid from one of the "biggest" clubs around.

Ross Barkley
BM A bit of an enigma who could barely get a game at Sheffield Wednesday. Was in and around the first team squad at best.
AM A key player for Everton and a regular England international.

Romelu Lukaku
BM Always a goalscorer but lacking in his all round game and hung out to dry by his former manager to the point where he was no longer wanted by a "big" club
AM Still a great goalscorer but with a much better all round game. His touch has improved massively (ignoring last week...) and has value has doubled. Now wanted by "big" clubs.

Brendan Galloway
BM Playing on and off for MK Dons
AM Made a name for himself at the start of the season and showed that he can fill in at left back. His stock his risen under Martinez.

And thats before we look at the less obvious young players like Besic who had the worst possible start to his Everton career imaginable, Robles who is coming on week by week and Deulofeo who was on the scrap heap in Spanish football.
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stones was 19 now 21, hasnt improved his defensive game one iota
barkley still hit and miss, doesnt understand his role and allowed to get away with being lazy
lukaku great goalscorer, all round game not improved much at all
galloway would in all likelihood be a better player if he'd stayed at mk dons for last couple of seasons.
 

gav1985 said:
I can't really understand how people are saying "that doesn't look like somebody who is about to lose their job". Do people expect him to be crying through the press conference? I will be astonished if he is here next season. People just need to be patient and wait for it to happen.
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Fans have been put through enough, if you haven't read The Esk then a lot of people will be thinking he's still here next season. That's why there's all the protest talk. The club need to call time on him now, not wait any longer. If not then Saturday is going to be unpleasant for Martinez and the club. It's all completely avoidable. If he's not sacked before Saturday then it's just incompetence.
 

It's clear the board are hanging him out to dry by allowing him to continue on. It builds a fever like atmosphere with the fans looking for blood so that when they do finally give him the inevitable elbow and announce a new manager they will be seen as the saviors - clever marketing really. Problem is, the lust for blood could easily at this stage pass onto the board as the fans have ran out of time for Martinez. For this reason alone they need to play their cards very sensibly. I think allowing Martinez manage on Sat is wrong on this count and allowing him to continue for the rest of the season could very well be a PR disaster for them.
 

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