Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Last Saturday, ahead of the semi, we went for a beer or two to The Horse Shoe pub in Clerkenwell, run by a Blue who was sporting a royal blue 'The People's Bar' t-shirt!

I'd have gone somewhere else!

 

[Toffeelover]

I think I would out of all the candidates I would like to give De Boer a chance.

 

[mightymoyes]

I think us fans just see stuff in a very black and white way (which is understandable).

We need to remember that the board members see more than us when it comes to the every day running of the club.

Maybe the rumours of a few bad apples at the club are true and instead of getting rid of the manager they will get rid of these players. Maybe they have had a look at the rest of the set up of the club and can see what Martinez is trying to do in regards to rebuilding the whole set up right down to the youth sides and are impressed with that and its future potential and are willing to give him some more time to fully implement it?

Im not saying any of this is right etc just that there is more to being a manager than just what we see on the pitch each week.

what rumours are these?

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Looks like AjaxDaily has been visiting GOT.

 

[The Cowboy]

I'm hearing that one of Dunc's homing pigeons is being prepped with a little rolled up piece of paper tucked under the dorsal guiding feathers.

 

[ToffeeDoug]

So the unconfirmed and completely spurious shortlist now comprises Pellegrini, de Boer and Howe.

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

I actually cringe when I hear that now.

...it was brilliant when first uttered. I remember the presser SO clearly and thinkin' 'Yissssssssss'

Sadly it ceased being applicable some time ago.

Pfff....

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

...it was brilliant when first uttered. I remember the presser SO clearly and thinkin' 'Yissssssssss'

Sadly it ceased being applicable some time ago.

Pfff....

Yeah when it was first said by Moyes it was great, especially because it wound the RS up big style.

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

I think us fans just see stuff in a very black and white way (which is understandable).

We need to remember that the board members see more than us when it comes to the every day running of the club.

Maybe the rumours of a few bad apples at the club are true and instead of getting rid of the manager they will get rid of these players. Maybe they have had a look at the rest of the set up of the club and can see what Martinez is trying to do in regards to rebuilding the whole set up right down to the youth sides and are impressed with that and its future potential and are willing to give him some more time to fully implement it?

Im not saying any of this is right etc just that there is more to being a manager than just what we see on the pitch each week.

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

Video links? Phones?


It's Everton. There'll be parchment, quills and wax seals involved.

...cups & string. Deffo.

 

[ted45]

Okay, so there's a board meeting today. Knowing the Everton board, the Martinez issue will not even be on the agenda.

 

[Mickey]

And on it goes. Like pulling teeth this.

 

[eddy]

I think us fans just see stuff in a very black and white way (which is understandable).

We need to remember that the board members see more than us when it comes to the every day running of the club.

Maybe the rumours of a few bad apples at the club are true and instead of getting rid of the manager they will get rid of these players. Maybe they have had a look at the rest of the set up of the club and can see what Martinez is trying to do in regards to rebuilding the whole set up right down to the youth sides and are impressed with that and its future potential and are willing to give him some more time to fully implement it?

Im not saying any of this is right etc just that there is more to being a manager than just what we see on the pitch each week.

I agree but he has failed with dealings off the pitch as well. His interviews are an embarrassment to the club. There were no bad apples when he took over. He quickly fell out with squad memebers and dropped them without considering the effects of this on the team.

He has tried to impose his philosophy on the players and fans, and all can see that it simply does not work, yet he refuses to change.

Without Lukaku we would be in a relegation scrap or already relegated and Martinez has just steadfastly refused to change.

The youth set up was fine before Martinez came along, i hope he is not arrogant enough to claim any involement with that. All he did was play youth that was about to break through under Moyes. He inherited a great squad, backed up with youth. Martinez and his Wigan staff didnt know what to do with it. He makes excuse after excuse, week after week, about building a football club, I find this particulary insulting really as he was gifted some great players and took their development backward.

I think the players will also be glad to see the back of him. Imagine having to work with a subpar manager week after week and listen to his flawed logic, I think after 3 years the players are just fed up with him he has ground them down and made them into losers.

To summarise poor management on all levels.

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

PAUL MERSON just said ROBERTO could manage BARCA. Easily.

Sound.

Awww, clearly in the midst of a relapse.

#SendsHugs

 

[StuBarlow]

I agree but he has failed with dealings off the pitch as well. His interviews are an embarrassment to the club. There were no bad apples when he took over. He quickly fell out with squad memebers and dropped them without considering the effects of this on the team.

He has tried to impose his philosophy on the players and fans, and all can see that it simply does not work, yet he refuses to change.

Without Lukaku we would be in a relegation scrap or already relegated and Martinez has just steadfastly refused to change.

The youth set up was fine before Martinez came along, i hope he is not arrogant enough to claim any involement with that. All he did was play youth that was about to break through under Moyes. He inherited a great squad, backed up with youth. Martinez and his Wigan staff didnt know what to do with it. He makes excuse after excuse, week after week, about building a football club, I find this particulary insulting really as he was gifted some great players and took their development backward.

I think the players will also be glad to see the back of him. Imagine having to work with a subpar manager week after week and listen to his flawed logic, I think after 3 years the players are just fed up with him he has ground them down and made them into losers.

To summarise poor management on all levels.

Spot on.