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Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

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Moyes had a very tidy squad to work with shortly after he arrived.

Hahaha now it's you rewriting history. Fact, the team was dog turd, ginola, gazza, blomqvist, linderoth. The list was endless. Pack it in.

he had a good enough squad to compete for top half of the table almost from the outset....broke the club transfer record on numerous occasions, and paid decent wages that attracted decent players.

So he had a good squad and managed to finish top regularly, yet Bobby has a better squad and is failing.

All over the place David. Go get some sleep, your like a punch drunk boxer, your agenda is getting boring
 
When did Martinez turn into Brendan Rodgers? Can we pinpoint it? I can't actually believe the amount of nonsense that comes out of the man's mouth these days. Just shut up ffs
The pre season before last, he'd had a great opening season, but instead of building on it he built his ego, chatting toss on world cup tv panels rather than overseeing pre season, while a kopite mural was put up in his honour, and Bill extended his contract after less than 12 months
 
The defence got the CL spot. We weren't exactly prodigious going forward and didn't need to be.

As said, 61 points. Leicester are about there now and have 10 games in hand.

Maybe the magic 72 points was our fluke one-off season, a la Leicester this year? Hmmm
 

They do. D'you think the likes of Coventry and Bolton had squads as good as ours during Moyes' time in charge? Moyes had a very tidy squad to work with shortly after he arrived.

What have Coventry and Bolton got to do with anything? They were relegated sides during Moyes' reign, whereas Everton were a top 6 side.

As for Moyes' squad, can't believe you're trying to spin him as some sort of big spender. His 'very tidy squad' consisted of the likes of Cahill (£1.5m), Arteta (£2m), Coleman (£60k), Jagielka (£4m), Baines (£5m).
 
Roberto Martinez gives staunch defence of his Everton reign
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Roberto Martinez is under pressure at EvertonCREDIT: PA
10 MARCH 2016 • 10:32PM


Everton manager Roberto Martinez has robustly defended his reign amid growing unrest with his side’s underperformance this season, insisting he remains the right man to lead the club into a new era.

Martinez can give the campaign a different complexion by securing a Wembley trip with victory over Chelsea in Saturday’s FA Cup quarter-final.

The game will be notable as the first attended by investor Farhad Moshiri since his 49.9 per cent purchase of the Merseyside club.

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Farhad Moshiri will be at Goodison Park on Saturday
There is no suggestion the future of Martinez is on the agenda for the new benefactor, but cup success would go some way to appeasing those who recognise how the manager has built a talented team, but are concerned at the current failure to deliver on its promise.

Martinez feels he deserves more support than criticism.

“It takes a brave journalist to defend the manager after losing in the last 12 minutes (to West Ham) and to say ‘look at the record of building a football club when he’s had to cope,'" said Martinez.

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Everton's home record this season has been poor
“It’s one of toughest jobs, winning games, creating something and it’s been smooth – in the first season we got 72 points; in the second we went into Europe, we have been into the semi-final of the League Cup; we’ve been consistently coping with the expectations of doing something good in the cups – that’s difficult.

“If I was a new manager in the Premier Leagu maybe I would be worried. I have been very fortunate because I have been ten years managing and seven of them have been consistently in the Premier League so I can speak from a good position of what pressure is. Whatever you’re fighting for – winning the FA Cup, fighting relegation, trying to get into the top four - I have that experience.

“You’re looking at a squad, the players we have and the signs we have shown this season and this is not a group that has hit the roof, or reached a level of being are quite happy to be seventh and hoping for a good season. We’re trying to be forward thinking and on the front foot, a team that can score and compete against anyone and we have seen signs.

“At home we have not been able to win enough, that’s the truth and we have to face it. But it’s not going to happen overnight, it’s a process. We manage funds very well, we have sold very well, and invested very well. We have not had a £300m investment. We just manage our assets very well and end up with a squad I feel has the potential to get somewhere special.

“Have we got experience within squad? Clearly not, we have young talent that needs trauma and pain but I am excited about the future when I look at the players I work with on a daily basis at Everton.”

Asked if Martinez may have put together a squad that someone else will get more from him, he responded: “Fine. I will be the proudest man on earth. I gave Joe Allen the perfect programme to develop as a youngster and he became a £15m player. As a manager you have to do that, for the good of the club, not for the good of the manager. I wouldn’t be involved in football if didn’t have that mentality. I’m not a short-term manager. I don’t want to get a football club mortgaged or in that situation just to win over the next six months. I enjoy building a club and making decisions. Maybe I am not going to see the benefit but that’s how a manager should think.”
 
The problem for me is Martinez is like Father Christmas or the Easter Bunny. I want to believe in him, but reality tells me shouldn't...

If he learned from his mistakes, admitted when he got it wrong, and decided to learn the art of defending, I think he could be good manager. The problem is I don't think he ever will, and will doom Everyon to repeat the same mistakes if he stays.
 
Sounds to me more like this is the storm....the one rattling round this tea forum tea cup.

This goes away at about 7.25pm Saturday, give or take a few minutes.

Then this lit go back in their caves.

Did they get you to trade
Your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change?
And did you exchange
A walk on part in the war
For a lead role in a cage?
 

The problem for me is Martinez is like Father Christmas or the Easter Bunny. I want to believe in him, but reality tells me shouldn't...

If he learned from his mistakes, admitted when he got it wrong, and decided to learn the art of defending, I think he could be good manager. The problem is I don't think he ever will, and will doom Everyon to repeat the same mistakes if he stays.
Good interview by RM that.
Context about why we aren't where we need to be in the league and flagging up the qualities he's brought since joined. It sounds like a confident man who knows he's getting backed and not sacked.
 

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