Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[JAYTALITY]

....and?

Does that mean you would view him as having failed if he finishes bottom half two years running?

I don't even know why I'm asking.

 

[Igrok]

Does that mean you would view him as having failed if he finishes bottom half two years running?

I don't even know why I'm asking.

Two SF finishes will earn him a pass to the Pantheon of Glory...

 

[Mogwai]

Anyone ever had that crazy X girlfriend that would argue everything and could never be wrong no matter how preposterous the effidence was stacking up against her . Like yis both know she's just talking pony but it wouldn't stop her.

Kinda reminds me of someone.

Remove the X and I know what you mean...

 

[thebluenosebolt]

Change the X girlfriend to current wife and I too know exactly what you mean.

 

[McBain]

The irony my friend. Certain Martinez supporters criticising BK and the Board for years now have BK solely keeping their man in his position for next season.

 

[kithnou]

Judge RM on his overall performance, fine. That's fair.

That last game though, he had better tactics, the tactics worked but we had a player sent off, his tactics worked despite being down to 10 men. The players messed up to me.

The sub was a bad decision, with hindsight, but it's not really RM's fault if the players lose the plot for 15 mins. The players need to man up and take responsibility.

Few would have criticised him for "parking the bus" after the penalty miss. In fact, the logical move when down to 10 men with 15 minutes to go and you are a goal up(let alone two!), is to? Yes that's right. Park. The. Bus.
He once again shows no plan b. No willingness to be manoeuvrable mid match to adjust to a specific match situation. I'm just realising these are classic symptoms of OCD.

 

[The Esk]

Uncle Cyril.

I know it feels like Only Fools and Horses right now...

Deserves max rep.

 

[McBain]

Moving forward from the Hammers debacle, can anyone see us actually beating an in-form Chelsea at Goodison?

A Sparrows Fart in Hurricane for mine.

 

[kithnou]

Moving forward from the Hammers debacle, can anyone see us actually beating an in-form Chelsea at Goodison?

A Sparrows Fart in Hurricane for mine.

No I can't. But going by my current profile pic, we will win..

 

[bluewally]

Does that mean you would view him as having failed if he finishes bottom half two years running?

I don't even know why I'm asking.

That's exactly what I read into that. It will be some turnaround

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Here's a scenario I've just made up (bit of fun, fume at it if you have to).

The Everton board are rocked by the 14/15 season. They have huge talents like Barkley and Stones and the premier league is finally in a state of open turmoil after Ferguson's resignation and Ciry keeping a big side out the top 4 every year. Despite this we are in a relegation battle and finish bottom half. Kenwright has watched Moyes control everything for 11 years on a low bet spend, now suddenly players aren't happy and are making it vocal, 30 mill was spent on a striker and we went backwards.

Kenwright being the man he is though decides to give Roberto the benefit of the doubt. The 15/16 season starts but the old habits creep in. There's fan discontent at the board that Roberto's failings are antagonising, there's fan discontent at the manager in unprecedented never before seen levels, we're still bottom half despite a number of new players coming in. The defence is getting worse and player unrest is in the air again.

Kenwright is watching all this in shock but is also working on the investment deal with Moshiri. Can he really hand over Everton to this new combo of manager and owner?

Not knowing what to do he puts in a phonecall to his best friend in football. They never stopped talking. 'David what do I do?'. Suddenly Moyes is available though. The job at Villa, turned down. West Ham, turned down. Swansea, turned down. Sunderland, turned down. Newcastle, turned down. Moyes openly admits though that he's turning down offers from Europe as he eyes a return to the premier league, but at what club? Baines Jags Mirallas are on the phone to him 'what's happened to our form gaffer'. And then in a few rare to interviews he starts dropping subtle references 'Everton would be a great club to go back to'.

Moshiri wants a manager popular with the fans to cement his new ownership and restore solid league form. He's no expert in managerial hiring from his time at Arsenal so leaves it to Bill.

He makes one final call on the last day of the 15/16 season after an embarassing finish of 13th. 'Please come home David', 'Aye Chairman'.

Think about it. Think about it. It could happen.

I think you're over-estimating how popular Moyes is with the fan base

 

[royalblue66]

Just read that Martinez saying there is more trauma ahead, wtf is he on about,
Is he preparing us for relegation ? .

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I may have missed something here but exactly what cliff?

I assume he means the season we were nearly relegated early in Moyes run as manager?

By the end he had us as a solid upper table side, which was better than we were before he arrived

 

[kithnou]

Just read that Martinez saying there is more trauma ahead, wtf is he on about,
Is he preparing us for relegation ? .

Spin in times of panic maybe? Marco Rubioesque right there...

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Boss wind up this Dave!

He's brilliant isn't he?

He's the Stanley Matthews of WUMming