First of all the question of fans wanting Everton to lose was asked answered and dismissed at least twice yesterday. Nobody has said that.
What teams have we really put to the sword. Sunderland, villa, Newcastle. A real collection of gems. The unfortunate results list is a lot longer and to say it can be rectified is a huge assumption as he seems incapable of rectifying it in the last 2 years.
Why do you automatically assume he's a Howard Kendall rather than a Mike walker where's the evidence to back it up?
5th or 6th is Europa league, yeah pain in the Arsenal but useful for improving UEFA coefficient and getting the clubs name out there.
5th or 6th is also about 9m in prize money that's a lot of wages.
And the better we do the more live games we get next season. At 1 million per game shown that's essential.
It's a very short term view to say it's 1st or nowhere
Anyone who wants the manager sacked when hes building a squad and we have NEVER looked like we were outclassed this season (ignoring the Utd game when we mourned the passing of Kendall) has a short termist viewpoint.
This is clearly due to watching Moyes 5th and 6th (lets ignore 17th shall we) placed finished which got the club absolutely nowhere at all....
Martinez is building for a lot more than this, the players he has brought to the club on a VERY LOW expenditure compared to other clubs are of champions league quality but need development.
If they do not have Martinez then what is the attraction to stay, to finish 5th or 6th? Absolutely ridiculous, they need to believe in a vision which Deulofeu and Lukaku have already said they do and one would imagine Barkley does too not to mention Besic, Mori and others.
By suggesting that finishing first as part of an overall vision which takes time to develop is short-termist is perhaps the most bizarre response i could imagine. How could taking time and sticking with a manager who the players believe in be considered short term? Thats just bizarre.
If you fancy re-hiring moyes or a similar clone to finish top 6 with dour percentage football then thats up to you but i think anyone with any knowledge of the game can understand that Man Utd and Chelsea are undergoing periods now of transition and based upon the clear facts we are too (just look at the change and ages of the playing staff signed).
Its quite obvious that going from a team of veterans to signing young players to develop is a long term approach with a higher ceiling....perhaps we just change manager to mourinho and sell these exciting players to buy veterans again and finish top 6 for 3 years before he leaves us with another ageing squad and then hire Martinez mark 2....then get twichy, fire him before hes finised the rebuilding process and rinse and repeat bouncing around 5th 6th again.....totally pointless.
Thats how to make the club irrelevant...so for good measure perhaps lets wait till the summer and bring in the "dream team" of benitez after he gets relegated with newcastle and eddie howe...
As for people admitting they want us to lose today thats unlikely but a great many posts on here suggest otherwise.
