Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[kenada_blue]

Are you not entertained?

 

[orly]

He was probably fed up watching the Everton match on telly and was just trying to get to the TV remote to turn it off mate....

Brilliant, less that two years old and already trying to avoid Match of the Day and post-match interviews.

 

[DrEFC]

we're away from home, so very

Anfield??

 

[degsy]

even the temptation/opportunity of a righteous fume has lost it's power to mesmerise now. It's all a bit ho hum same same

another home loss, cue air on a g string*lights hamlet.

 

[riddick]

Did anyone ask him why the hell he didn't bother with the 3rd sub? I love this idea that he has that 'well, 2 down at home, 80 minutes in nah, the lads on the pitch who look absolutely lost have it!'.

 

[Tree13]

Did anyone ask him why the hell he didn't bother with the 3rd sub? I love this idea that he has that 'well, 2 down at home, 80 minutes in nah, the lads on the pitch who look absolutely lost have it!'.

It's been a regular Martinez feature this season. Several games have seen us not bother with the third sub.

But Bobby brown shoes managed one thing today that I thought was beyond the ability of any manager in the prem... he made Welbeck look like a pacy, skilful, dangerous striker. *vomit

 

[riddick]

It's been a regular Martinez feature this season. Several games have seen us not bother with the third sub.

But Bobby brown shoes managed one thing today that I thought was beyond the ability of any manager in the prem... he made Welbeck look like a pacy, skilful, dangerous striker. *vomit

I recall at least one match this season about a month or so ago he didn't even make a sub. The first season Bobby seems to be an illusion but loads still go back "his first season! SEVENTY TWO!". He was so great that first year with subs and changing tactics mid-game.

 

[Ashtonian]

We won't get relegated. We've the resources to do enough.



United, Chelsea, City, West Ham, RS, Spurs all changed their manager in no where near as bad a record as we have at the moment.

Leicester needed rid of their manager, who was a nutcase (and hasn't found a job since) and upgraded massively.

Wouldn't replacing Martinez be an upgrade also? Imagine a manager who can organise the whole team rather than one part if it? Sounds like basic requirements but we are massively lacking there. Point is we can do a lot better than Martinez, its whether the club realise that before we start to lose out vest players because they realise first.

To be fair untied changed their manager when they dropped from champions to Europa league, massive drop for them. It hasn't worked out in their case which makes them a minority but they replaced their unsuccessful manager with a on a whole better one, just got him at the wrong time. Perhaps just the wrong country for him, either or. Spurs showed ambition and are now a title contender, Chelsea won the league again under their manager, Liverpool were going backwards and showed ambition getting klopp, west ham wanted a manager higher than mid table and Leicester currently defy any logical explanation other than they deserve everything they are getting. What none of the clubs above did was just keep giving their current manager time and hoping he turned it around despite results showing otherwise. Hell even stoke shown some ambition getting Hughes and to be fair to them, they have surpassed everything that came before the change.

We need to change the manager, but it needs to be the right one. That us down to the club to find them, even if Martinez gets a few months at the start of the season. I mean give Roberto 100 million and I wouldn't be concerned at him spending it, I would be worried at 100 million of talent conceding three goals in 15 minutes though next year.

 

[Sentinel]

I mean give Roberto 100 million and I wouldn't be concerned at him spending it

If Martinez fails in three seasons to win silverware it would be an unmitigated disaster to give him more money to spend. Besides the amount he's spent already and it's been far more than our previous manager, if we accept Moyes had only 4 million to spend per year initially. Based on his record, it's forgivable if unspectacular, after modest investment, one final, a semi and a fourth place finish. To give Martinez that kind of trust, I'm sorry Ash I think that would be inexcusable considering his record last summer and the January transfer window. He has to stand by his signings so far, he inherited a decent team and has added to it. If he can't produce now, there is nothing in his record to suggest he ever will. We can clutch at straws all you want but results speak for themselves. There's a chance Martinez could turn it around, win the FA.Cup and build upon that, though as the defeats pile up, that is looking increasingly unlikely.

 

[Khalekan]

even the temptation/opportunity of a righteous fume has lost it's power to mesmerise now. It's all a bit ho hum same same

another home loss, cue air on a g string*lights hamlet.

yip


There was no fume leaving the ground.....no fume in the pub.....no fume on here.

This has become the new normal.

No one is surprised no moah.

Just numb.

And not even comfortably so.

 

[Sentinel]

My take on 26 years of mismanagement, underachievement, gross negligence. Would look like this.



Middle aged Evertonians having a rant or fume might apply, or we hold our club at a higher standard. Who knows? Irrespective it's time to produce, we've had enough false dawns, false hopes, failed promises and bridges over the rainbow. The amount of money that's about to flood into the game is obscene. We already got left behind once in the so called Premier League era, let's make sure it doesn't happen again.

 

[AJC5]

Our home form is the problem. We try and blitz everyone who comes to Goodison but we expect too much of Lukaku. If the opposition can neutralise him they know that their chance will come at the other end. Under Moyes we struggled to break down stubborn visitors but we didn't leave ourselves so open.

We've lost 9 league games this season and 8 of those have come at home. If we'd been more cautious and drawn those games instead we'd be on 46 points and within sight of the Champion's League places.

We might have to start playing like the away side at Goodison to start getting results. If teams like West Brom and Palace come to the Old Lady expecting an onslaught and it doesn't come we could draw them out and create space in behind. The worst that could happen is that we'd draw games instead of losing them.

Roberto is right that we're close to something and it'll just take a tweak to start seeing improved results.

The away form isn't that good. Five wins against the relegation contenders really isn't that impressive. We need much more than a tweak. The tweak we need is a change of manager. We are so badly organised on the field it is untrue.

 

[BigDunc'sFod]

This is what Martinez's reign looks like so far - league results only

This is our home form in the league (since 2013):

 

[Igrok]

There are only three things he can do to save face - derby win, cup win...and quit...

 

[Saaby]

He needs to leave and take Kone & Cleverly with him