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Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)
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Ballymoney1
Player Valuation: £950k
I'm not advocating bringing him back but you can be sure that if Moyes was in charge we would not be throwing away leads every other week. Under Martinez we are very naive when defending, Moyes would put an end to that.
That said he wouldn't have us playing the expansive attacking game that enables us to lead so many of our recent performances.
That said he wouldn't have us playing the expansive attacking game that enables us to lead so many of our recent performances.
Kendall's Dream
Player Valuation: £10m
Thanks for the debate..
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
People were buzzing after Chelsea mate, but very few were convinced that that level of effort in the performance would become a regular thing.
I think Martinez has in him what's needed to take us to Wembley and see Jagielka lift the cup, and we'll all sing his name and be made up for both him and the club.
But that goodwill won't run very deep if the league form next season is a repeat of what we've seen so far this season. That's not people being fickle, it's just realism.
This is the last I'll say on things for now
In my opinion;
Martinez's big flaw is the defence and I believe he needs a new defensive coach to assist him, while also adjusting his tactics overall
If he doesn't do this, I don't think he'll last through next season
If he doesn't address the defence but does manage to get a good enough goalkeeper in who can make up for the defensive deficiencies, I think he'll be fine
So basically, next season depends on him amending the tactics and coaching staff (Which to be honest isn't that likely) or him getting in a proper world class keeper who can clean up the regular messes his tactics cause (Which is slightly more likely)
It's all up in the air and this summer is going to be an interesting one to say the least
In my opinion;
Martinez's big flaw is the defence and I believe he needs a new defensive coach to assist him, while also adjusting his tactics overall
If he doesn't do this, I don't think he'll last through next season
If he doesn't address the defence but does manage to get a good enough goalkeeper in who can make up for the defensive deficiencies, I think he'll be fine
So basically, next season depends on him amending the tactics and coaching staff (Which to be honest isn't that likely) or him getting in a proper world class keeper who can clean up the regular messes his tactics cause (Which is slightly more likely)
It's all up in the air and this summer is going to be an interesting one to say the least
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I'm looking for consistency mate. If you hand the brick bats out when we lose have the good grace to get back on after a big win and offer the bouquets too.
Its called character.
Kendall's Dream
Player Valuation: £10m
257 matches in 3 seasons? 86 matches a season? Wrong stats just to make Martinez look even worse. Not having a go at you mate, but if people are going to make stats on paint, at least get them right.
Kiwi
Say NO to Ginger Managers
I'm sorry but cannot see winning a cup as a bad thing.
Even though it will relieve some pressure on Martinez, he'll still be under a tremendous amount of pressure to get league results, and if he doesn't, Moshiri will have enough of a say and he will go.
We haven't had a trophy win since 95. 21 years. Would take a cup every single time.
Even though it will relieve some pressure on Martinez, he'll still be under a tremendous amount of pressure to get league results, and if he doesn't, Moshiri will have enough of a say and he will go.
We haven't had a trophy win since 95. 21 years. Would take a cup every single time.
People saying he can't be sacked because we are in the semi final of the cup, well before that small matter of the semi final we have 4 league games to attend to.
What happens if we don't get any results from those 4 games? Doesn't it matter?
Only at a club like Everton would you get such blind loyalty as not to sack him. It took an abysmal 1st half performance against Boro for Smith to be shown the door, seems like it's going to take about another 20 performances before the board see sense and remove him from his duties.
He's so far out of his depth that it simply needs to be sorted asap.
What happens if we don't get any results from those 4 games? Doesn't it matter?
Only at a club like Everton would you get such blind loyalty as not to sack him. It took an abysmal 1st half performance against Boro for Smith to be shown the door, seems like it's going to take about another 20 performances before the board see sense and remove him from his duties.
He's so far out of his depth that it simply needs to be sorted asap.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I completely agree.
I think this is almost certainly true. We're going to see a barrage of stuff about things being unacceptable after every draw or defeat till the end of the season. But I think if our board are happy with the level of players they've seen coming in then they'll stick for now unless we start to look in any realistic danger of losing them.
They will be as aware of where we need to improve as the fans are and how likely that is. I'm convinced he'll get time to get it right and this is year zero for them.
They've clearly already seen something they like so don't see them reacting to anything until they've had a good look.
Eric Djemba-Djemba
Player Valuation: £60m
Didn't realise you got 3 points for not losing away from home. My mistake.
Ah lol I just got it of Facebook
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
Oh, well where's the fun in that ?
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Players need to get up and act like grown men too.
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