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Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

Martinez in or out?

  • In

  • Out

  • Getting splinters eating cheese on toast on the fence

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Saint Domingo said:
What do you think is the reason for unhappy fans? What came first in your view? The fans suddenly got no reason became hugely negative and the results nosedived? Or a set of fans high from that first season have been worn down by two of the worst seasons in recent history and have is become fed up?
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Who the hell are we kidding though? I went up in the 03/04 season when we were proper jarg and our supporters were never as crass or as unsupportive as they are today.
 
Megatron said:
That's not their fault, and they'd be the first to admit at times they haven't performed well but make the effort to do better. None of them warrent the stick they get, well maybe Kone for not scoring more when he's played, but players like Mirallas and Pienaar who either can't stay fit or show more professionalism get universally loved
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Cleverley would be the first to admit it?

I'd suggest a man who setup the rapidly failed TC23 brand of clothing and lifestyle accessories is probably not that hot on self-awareness and humility
 
Saint Domingo said:
What do you think is the reason for unhappy fans? What came first in your view? The fans suddenly for no reason became hugely negative and the results nosedived? Or a set of fans high from that first season have been worn down by two of the worst seasons in recent history and have now become fed up?
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Under 30s Fifa loving beauts who have some sort of entitlement cos they paid money for a seat.
 
Number_25 said:
Who the hell are we kidding though? I went up in the 03/04 season when we were proper jarg and our supporters were never as crass or as unsupportive as they are today.
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Ignored the question mate. Also completely different contexts. We were a relegation side back then and were in no danger of going down that season in 03/04. Now we are/were a top 7 side and Roberto has taken us to the bottom half twice.
 

Saint Domingo said:
Ignored the question mate. Also completely different contexts. We were a relegation side back then and were in no danger of going down that season in 03/04. Now we are/were a top 7 side and Roberto has taken us to the bottom half twice.
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Two cup semis in a year.

Taking us down, be funked.

Moving in the right direction. Look at how strong the PL is this season. A team with a £50m striker is struggling to get into the top 4 FFS.
 
Number_25 said:
Two cup semis in a year.

Taking us down, be funked.

Moving in the right direction. Look at how strong the PL is this season. A team with a £50m striker is struggling to get into the top 4 FFS.
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Where have I said he's taking us down? We won't get relegated but we are in the bottom half which is not good enough. LVG's failings at United should not be used to excuse Martinez's here.

Your original point was that the fans are to blame for poor home form. You've said nothing to back that up.
 

orly said:
Cleverley would be the first to admit it?

I'd suggest a man who setup the rapidly failed TC23 brand of clothing and lifestyle accessories is probably not that hot on self-awareness and humility
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Wow, that's a stupid stick to beat someone with. So what, he tried to make a living away from the game in the event that he may at some point get a career ending injury and it wasn't a success, these things happen. Not sure what that has to to with what he does on the pitch
 
Saint Domingo said:
Where have I said he's taking us down? We won't get relegated but we are in the bottom half which is not good enough. LVG's failings at United should not be used to excuse Martinez's here.

Your original point was that the fans are to blame for poor home form. You've said nothing to back that up.
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Go watch us play at home and tell me that the atmosphere is what it used to be, go on lad.

Look at our home/away record this season and tell me there's nothing wrong with the home support.

Go on lad.
 
Number_25 said:
Wasn't that for charity?
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It failed,

http://therepublikofmancunia.com/tom-cleverley-the-brand/

And then months later he claimed it was for charity.

So when it launched, there was nothing to indicate it was for charity at all - and let's be honest, who's going to buy a pair of Tom Cleverley jeans as a way of making a charitable contribution?

Everton are contributing to the Tom Cleverley Lifestyle Maintenance Charity on a weekly basis. I suppose that is close.
 

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