Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

Martinez in or out?

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Goodison Park used to be a fortress.

One of my lasting memories from my childhood was the United game, where Duncan Ferguson scored from a Kilbane cross.

If we can riled up seeing the likes of Stubbs loft a ball aimlessly toward the head of Ferguson, I'd imagine we can get riled up seeing what we have now.
 

Ive been saying it for months and ive been going to Goodison for 30+ years now, never seen it so bad, its a toxic wasteland for our players.

The team tries to build attacks, granted its slow and ponderous, but its the style and it is what it is, if ANYBODY plays a ball even remotely sideways the groans and the abuse of that player starts. The players are scared to try things, cos the groans and the abuse starts.

This isnt when we are getting beat, it even happens when we are winning games.

People simply dont understand, sometimes you need to go backwards, sometimes you need to stand on the ball and wait for things to happen. Its here to stay as well, it aint going away and the only way it will change is to change the manager, certain sections of the crowd do not want Martinez anymore and they make those feelings known.

To be fair, we are going backwards a lot at the moment, 13% less wins per season in three seasons.

Cheer it or sniff it friend.
 
At the end of this day, this forum has become proper jarg.

It used to be a place where I could read stories of Everton-old and new. Now it's just constant scapegoating and scathing commentary about how [Poor language removed] we are.
 

Actually, going to say it.

Due to academic commitments, I've been unable to attend Goodison Park as much as I'd like.

On the rare occasion I make the 240 mile trip to the Stadium, I'm shocked at how bad the home support is. Used to be that we'd get on top of the opposition, now we're too busy screaming at our own and posting dank memes on Twitter about how jarg it is to be a Everton supporter.

The support at Goodison Park is crap.

Neg me, but you know it's true.
Whether you like it or not this has all been caused by one man.

In over 40 years of supporting Everton I have never known one man cause such a divide.
 
To be fair, we are going backwards a lot at the moment, 13% less wins per season in three seasons.

Cheer it or sniff it friend.

Its utterly horrific.

But negative vibes arent going to improve things, shouting abuse at our players isnt going to improve things, im not saying we should all hold hands and sing songs, just simply shut the fudge up with the negative crap, save it for here and Twitter.
 

This is not a defence of RM, who I want to see gone, but this is the age of hype, bling, mindless celebrity, breaking news, instant social media updates and delusional self-entitlement, for many 'young people' there is nothing of substance or depth to what they do, and they are simply not equipped with the necessary patience and mental fortitude to cope with getting through a game of football that is not going well. An inability to see the bigger picture or make rational judgements means the only likely outcome is them screaming at how unfair it all is. It is society's problem, not just Everton's.
 
At the end of this day, this forum has become proper jarg.

It used to be a place where I could read stories of Everton-old and new. Now it's just constant scapegoating and scathing commentary about how [Poor language removed] we are.

The forum is what you make it. We don't control what people write. If you want to see more good news conversations, have more good news conversations :)
 
Agree or disagree with him mate, at least Esk puts his point across well thought out, unlike the mouth breathers screaming OUT every 5 minutes. He makes some valid points, whether or not you disagree with the end result of firing him.
Absolutely. But when an example is given and it doesn't add up what would be the purpose of not commenting on it?
 

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