Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[TheHumbleEgg]

...they wont like that. Be afraid, be VERY afraid.

LOL

FFS mate - hot off the presses....in 2013.

 

[oldblue]

If we'd lost against Rapid back in '85 we would have been ultimately unsuccessful in that competition, but people would still remember, and talk about the games against Bayern as being huge. The semi was actually a bigger game than the final. Admittedly if we hadn't gone on to win it, the memory would be a bit bittersweet, but you only win finals by getting to them, which means winning the semi.

Maybe I'm jealous because I couldn't go to the final but I wouldn't swap being at Goodison for that Bayern game for any trophy win

 

[nsno-chris]

Some teams who have got to the F.A. Cup Semi Final since 2010
Portsmouth
Stoke City
Bolton Wanderers
Wigan Athletic (twice)
Millwall
Hull City
Sheffield United
Reading
Aston Villa

 

[orly]

So your answer to statistics that people have proven are consistently a highly accurate indicator is to just display the stats.

Here's another corker for you.

51 goals scored in 29 games.

Of which we've scored 4 vs Newcastle [2 games] , 6 vs Sunderland [1 game], 7 vs Villa [2 games]

so 17 goals of the 51 - 33% of the goals - have been scored in a sixth of the games. Massively skwiffed, flat track bullying - the entertainers, as long as you're in the bottom three. 34 goals in 24 games for the rest, not really as stellar.

But you want stats? 21 wins in 67 games are all the ones we really need.

A wise man once wrote

The table never lies

In fact, it's the same chap who also said

He'd be a huge letdown in this league. He wants way too much time on the ball to deliver and he has a serious lack of real pace. It would be a car crash of a signing.

Right before, er, defending the player in question, Aiden McGeady, for little or no reason.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

LOL

Yep. Was looking for that 2nd post meself. Well in.

 

[jinkyali]

Here's another corker for you.

51 goals scored in 29 games.

Of which we've scored 4 vs Newcastle [2 games] , 6 vs Sunderland [1 game], 7 vs Villa [2 games]

so 17 goals of the 51 - 33% of the goals - have been scored in a sixth of the games. Massively skwiffed, flat track bullying - the entertainers, as long as you're in the bottom three. 34 goals in 24 games for the rest, not really as stellar.

But you want stats? 21 wins in 67 games are all the ones we really need.

A wise man once wrote



In fact, it's the same chap who also said



Right before, er, defending the player in question, Aiden McGeady, for little or no reason.

3 of the bottom 4.

Yay..

 

[Woolly Blue]

Maybe I'm jealous because I couldn't go to the final but I wouldn't swap being at Goodison for that Bayern game for any trophy win

Spot on, it was a massive moment in our history, and though it wouldn't have been as massive long term if we'd lost the final, it would still have been something that Blues would have remembered all their lives. Sadly the under-30's don't seem to think that way. Nods in Chico's direction

 

[oldblue]

Here's another corker for you.

51 goals scored in 29 games.

Of which we've scored 4 vs Newcastle [2 games] , 6 vs Sunderland [1 game], 7 vs Villa [2 games]

so 17 goals of the 51 - 33% of the goals - have been scored in a sixth of the games. Massively skwiffed, flat track bullying - the entertainers, as long as you're in the bottom three. 34 goals in 24 games for the rest, not really as stellar.

But you want stats? 21 wins in 67 games are all the ones we really need.

A wise man once wrote



In fact, it's the same chap who also said



Right before, er, defending the player in question, Aiden McGeady, for little or no reason.

That's how you get decent goal differences, don't lose by much when you do lose and win comfortably when you win. As the article says it has hardly ever been wrong over a season. And when it has it proved accurate for the following. If you've found the one exception then they probably need to know

 

[Woolly Blue]

Some teams who have got to the F.A. Cup Semi Final since 2010
Portsmouth
Stoke City
Bolton Wanderers
Wigan Athletic (twice)
Millwall
Hull City
Sheffield United
Reading
Aston Villa

Very true, and two of those have gone to win it
The number of teams who didn't get to the semi-final but went on to win it, is the square root of bugger all.

 

[toffee matt]

Spot on, it was a massive moment in our history, and though it wouldn't have been as massive long term if we'd lost the final, it would still have been something that Blues would have remembered all their lives. Sadly the under-30's don't seem to think that way. Nods in Chico's direction

Probably because everyone under 30 was in Primary School or in many cases not alive the last time we won a trophy

 

[Woolly Blue]

Probably because everyone under 30 was in Primary School or in many cases not alive the last time we won a trophy

If it makes you feel any better, I may well be dead before we win our next one !





Unless Martinez pulls his finger out and manages to win a couple of games at Wembley, which he may well do.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

1st March 2015



1st April 2016

Omg

 

[toffee matt]

If it makes you feel any better, I may well be dead before we win our next one !





Unless Martinez pulls his finger out and manages to win a couple of games at Wembley, which he may well do.

I wouldn't bet against it tbf.

 

[orly]

That's how you get decent goal differences, don't lose by much when you do lose and win comfortably when you win. As the article says it has hardly ever been wrong over a season. And when it has it proved accurate for the following. If you've found the one exception then they probably need to know

Not really - you've done us all another huge favour. Even from the article;

And if you're +10 but in 12th place, you are considerably underachieving by about four or five places.

You've actually managed to link an article that shows that, relative to goal difference, Martinez's and this Everton side are underachieving. Amazing stuff, you're actually doing it for us.

 

[oldblue]

Not really - you've done us all another huge favour. Even from the article;

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And if you're +10 but in 12th place, you are considerably underachieving by about four or five places.

You've actually managed to link an article that shows that, relative to goal difference, Martinez's side are underachieving. Amazing stuff.

And will either end up closer to the top by the end of the season or improve next.
Then again they may not because no statistic is proof that anything is going to happen. But I know where I'd be placing my cash after reading it.