Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[Lee Smith]

MARTINEZ: "Right lads, tough game, let's have a bit of instant feedback on it - you start Jags."
JAGIELKA: "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
MARTINEZ: "Phenomenal, anything else?"

I literally just LOLed at this (well it actually came out as more of a very loud snort). Cheers for slightly brightening up my very sad mood Tubes

 

[nsno-chris]

And it's things like this why he gets called a fraud, jesus Brendan Rogers was not as bad as this tit

 

[davek]

Do the honourable thing and resign you utter fraud

I smell your fear.

The cup win will be quite traumatic for some.

Tick tock.

 

[meagher94]

lol

No we couldn't. We're 12 in the league for a reason. A lot of it is down to the manager who has to go, but the players quite clearly aren't as good as some make them out to be.

Proven by Coleman attempting to clear the ball with his right foot, with a player waiting to score behind him, when he could have just cleared it simply with his left. The players make mistakes week in week out that cost us. It's not all on the manager.

Maybe you lose that sharpness which leads to mistakes when you hardly focus on defending in training...

 

[DualityNSNO]

Did I specifically point out an individual Blue and take a shot?

Some Blues do have that opinion. I don't agree with it. @Allezfan stated if we win the Cup it would be our best season since we last won the cup. I was merely stating that some may challenge that opinion regarding the Champions League qualification in '05.

No, no you didn't, it was more of a generalisation, and using "SOME blues" just makes it sound even more passive aggressive, while you're claiming it is not right.

 

[Allezfan]

If we could guarantee a trophy by doing it I'd accept a defeat from them.

...and anyone thinking clearly would too.

We tried that 4 years ago, tbf.

 

[EFC78]

Leicester. City.

All we needed to was hire a better chemist.

We can belittle Leicester all we want, but they have players who do their jobs properly every week, and we don't.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

This made me chuckle, even if I'm in the 'in' camp.

"Giving RM this job was like giving a 90 year old a sports car. He was always going to crash it and kill everyone in it."

 

[roydo]

Would you bet against us winning that final and then going on from there to win it?

I wouldn't. I think we're one massive result away from silverwate. The SF will define everything.

We're 12th and if we dont fall any lower than that by the season's end Martinez will be going anywhere. If we reach the final, never mind win it, he's definitely safe.

Of course I would love a pot. And fair play if he delivers.

But the league trend is downward. Has been for 24 months. The league is the barometer of any manager. Not flash in the pan cup wins, great though they are.

And before the inevitable "Cup can be a springboard", well, it can. Just not with this manager imo. Shame.

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

Kind of unnecessary taking shots at a fellow blue for having an opinion that differs from yours. Allezfan is one of the long standing top posters around here.

...mate, you're outlandishly pompous aren't you, it's enjoyable watching how many times you 'pull' people, if not a tad odd.

So, would you like to know the sentiment behind my questioning of devotion....wanna really hear it. And - aces by the way, before you play the card - this isn't a criticism of you being an 'offshore' blue either. And, for record, I like ALLEZ, he's a sound poster, and I apologise for the tone toward @Allezfan, genuinely I do...

But I'm afraid it rankles at the most base level, these folk that spit away how meaningless the league is...that 5th & 15th are the same...all that antagonistic crap...anyway, wanna know what the base level is...it's doing better than your neighbour, it's having a better center forward than they have, it's the dashed hope of us having a better squad than they have for the first time in years and having someone at the helm who's managed to take it backwards (what an achievement that is)...the league's a sign of progress and proof that we're NOT standing still...

And it's dismissed, shockingly today, as an 'oh well, wouldn't have made any difference anyway'.

I simply can't come round nor understand that way of thinking.

it's about pride, in the badge, in the colour...in the club.

So don't f**king tell me 5th is the same as 15th.

It isn't.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Hope you are wrong .

So do I, but I very much doubt I am

 

[ianefc]

Unlike you mate, people aren't worried about being wrong - if Martinez wins the cup, goes on a blinding run and takes us on next season, we'd all be delighted.

But you - you simply can't take the very possibility you're completely wrong.

So this is the pot calling the kettle black in every possible way.

I said this to him 18 months ago, it's clear as day he is putting himself, his faith in Martinez and Martinez himself all ahead of Everton, then slanders Evertonians by suggesting they want Everton to lose.

 

[davek]

We tried that 4 years ago, tbf.

When we had the coward Moyes in charge. Roberto is a gambler. Which is what you need in cups.

 

[bring the ghost on]

No one could have been looking at that as a game we shouldn't lose. They are CL spot contenders.

Err, shouldn't we be as well? Isn't that the problem here?

 

[Tubey]

In the same vein, he cares only the cup games. For me he takes things out of context to suit any of his argument.

5th is the same as 15th as he said.

For the love of... will people please stop saying this? Please? It's so obviously wrong and stupid that I can't believe it's become a regular thing!