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Roberto Martinez discussion

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BossBarkley said:
Bobby ain't the man in the net who can't save a feather dropping.
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But he is the one who should be bollocking the back 4 + gk and terrifying them into not making silly mistakes.

FFS they are good players but they are taking the piss out of the manager and fans with these stupid individual errors and unlike moyes who would hammer them we have a manager who most likely will say "ah play like your in the park lads enjoy your futbol" nonsense which he comes out with
 
mythbuster said:
Well many had Jags and Distin's form down as a blip. I've seen nothing today to say it wasn't.
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They need more than a good game to persuade me they're still the answer.

IMO, overall we were told we have a sufficiently balanced and strong squad. I never believed it and I think that's being underlined right now. We can't compete on four fronts with this lot.
 
davek said:
They need more than a good game to persuade me they're still the answer.

IMO, overall we were told we have a sufficiently balanced and strong squad. I never believed it and I think that's being underlined right now. We can't compete on four fronts with this lot.
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What I don't understand is why, if he felt the need to rest players because of our busy fixtures, why not wait until the league Cup game. Mirallas and Naismith are in the form of their Everton career, and he drops them. He has had a shocker today, and the worrying thing is, it is the same mistake he made versus Palace last season and he hasn't learned from it.
 
davek said:
They need more than a good game to persuade me they're still the answer.

IMO, overall we were told we have a sufficiently balanced and strong squad. I never believed it and I think that's being underlined right now. We can't compete on four fronts with this lot.
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Not just talking about one game though. I'm suggesting (you know on the evidence of the 100's of games they've played for us) that the crap 2/3 games were the anomaly and not today's performance.
 

davek said:
They need more than a good game to persuade me they're still the answer.

IMO, overall we were told we have a sufficiently balanced and strong squad. I never believed it and I think that's being underlined right now. We can't compete on four fronts with this lot.
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Its not the personnel, its the system. You always defend from the front and we are not, allowing oppositon far to much space in the holes and we are being punished. Its far too easy for the opposition.

Granted the defenders have made silly mistakes, but they should not be under that amount of pressure. This is like Wigan
 
Wat Tyler said:
What I don't understand is why, if he felt the need to rest players because of our busy fixtures, why not wait until the league Cup game. Mirallas and Naismith are in the form of their Everton career, and he drops them. He has had a shocker today, and the worrying thing is, it is the same mistake he made versus Palace last season and he hasn't learned from it.
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So the keeper makes 2 balls ups - I know, let's blame the defeat on the 2 attacking players he rotated. :Blink: Real bright-spark you lad.
 
nsno-chris said:
Its not the personnel, its the system. You always defend from the front and we are not, allowing oppositon far to much space in the holes and we are being punished. Its far too easy for the opposition.

Granted the defenders have made silly mistakes, but they should not be under that amount of pressure. This is like Wigan
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I've thought all season that teams have been getting at our back 4 far too easily. The amount of times we have players running at our centre halves isn't good enough, Barry and McCarthy's role in this needs to be looked at too.
 

nsno-chris said:
Its not the personnel, its the system. You always defend from the front and we are not, allowing oppositon far to much space in the holes and we are being punished. Its far too easy for the opposition.

Granted the defenders have made silly mistakes, but they should not be under that amount of pressure. This is like Wigan
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What pressure? Don't be acting like Palace had us under the cosh; all 3 goals could EASILY have been avoided.
 

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