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Roberto Martinez discussion

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bicycleheader said:
i would say players not closing down in the last seconds of the game, or just generally switching off for the second half of the game.

no idea if thats the managers fault. im pretty sure he doesnt send them out to perform like that.

im also sure he hasnt instructed our captain to continue a career of making errors with relatively bogstandard high balls or instructed Deulofeu to lose possession when he should run the clock down.

im sure theres stuff he is not doing right, but its not all on him.
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Same with Stoke - 3.2.
Same today.
Same against Bournemouth

Countless games this season...we're either chasing 2 goal deficits or losing them.

And he shows no signs of changing it.
 
Anyone know the nane of the ref last Wednesday?

I don't TBH off the top of my head.

But not once was their a mention of a conspiracy then, when we got away with a stone wall pen then, nor V City in the Cup.

Bad selective frauds.
 
ianefc said:
Does anyone agree with this right now? Anyone? Hellllloooooo Is their anyone around to answer?


Dave turn the lights off when you leave the room please mate.
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I am. To demand a sack of Everton manager after being robbed from a win at the Champions territory it's just silly and stupid.

We're not winning enough but we just played Chelsea. Away. And should have won if it wasn't for that thief. Get a grip.
 

blueboy1664 said:
How much coaching does a 30 odd year proven england international, england left back , ROI right back abd potentially the next best ever english centre back need ?

I wonder how they ever got to where they are in their respective careers?
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So if they can play without a manager then what's the point of hiring one?
 
Referees arepaid alot of money to do their 'fulltime' job. Yes its hard because of the pace of the game and weall accept mistakes will happen but looking at your watch and seeing time is up shouldnt really be to difficult for a well paid professional. As i said nothing will happen.
 

moyes cardy said:
Maybe so but you are watching one of the best attacking sides we have had for over 30 years. Yes it's frustrating but we will win a cup and move up from there - same as Kendal did. Would we have played like this against Chelsea under moyes - you know the answer. So for now hold on it's a roller coaster but bloody hell were playing some fabulous stuff and we go to city in 10 days with a genuine belief we can win - for that i thank the manager.
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And when it goes like Kiev last season, then what?
 
Piranha said:
Martinez was a downgrade from Moyes, anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.

League doesn't lie.

Everton have won just 18 of their last 60 league games, we're Wigan now.
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If you really believe that then football is not the sport for you.
Yes ,there are issues about defending but in less than three years on a limited budget he has put together an exciting young team that can only get better.
If offside goals are allowed then there isn't much the manager can do about that.
I wonder if Chelsea were leading at the end would the ref have allowed the play to on as long as it did..
 
Even the most staunch Martinez fan must be questioning how many football matches we win under him.

We ain't going down, but we ain't getting top 4 either. No point in saying he is building for something, as the best players will be sold if we don't get European football.

Pressure is on him to win a cup, let's pray he delivers.
 

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