Roberto Martinez discussion

[Coffee and TV]

Are they Bournemouth, Norwich and Watford?

What about the last 3 seasons?

Over both seasons. So out of every team to play both seasons, only 3 have won fewer games than us.

 

[Ashtonian]

Martinez was obliged to sell his best players every year at Wigan, and start afresh the next season. His transfer dealings were largely successful. Unlike a big club, Wigan could not afford a major signing to fail.

Wigan went down because they did not have the resources to compete in the Premier League. Playing in two competitions - the league and the cup - imposed an even greater load on Wigan. But they were successful in one.

Martinez staked his reputation on signing Lukaku. And he signed Deulofeu too. He has developed them both and integrated them into the team. That they have been so successful is to his credit!

martinez's credit? Del was being hailed as the next great thing out of the barca academy and lukaku was clearly a top striker in the making when chelsea moved for him even then, his 15 goals or so for west brom kind of confirmed that.

You can give martinez credit for McCarthy and Besic and to a certain extent Mori (succesful centre half in argentina) but that is pretty much it. Jesus we went to MK dons and brought back galloway over Alli! lol

But interesting you say he was obliged to sell his best players every year. So like it has been said many times, what happens off another poor season if we don't win the cup? Lukaku's agent has him ask for a transfer, Stones asking for a transfer again, Barkley has his head turned by say united or city, barca want del back, hell even a european team look at besic and plan a fair size bid. What happens then? The same as wigan? selling his best players?

 

[bicycleheader]

What's the tipping point with the board do you think?

They will have patience but no cups and a lowly finish this season will IMO mean they will be ready to make a decision next season if theres no improvement.

 

[Timak]

So there hasn't been much change in points won over the last five years.

However if you look at it as the last 61 games compared to the 61 before that you see we have gone from 112 points to 76 points.

Our form has been awful for 18 months after a brilliant 18 months

 

[royalblue66]

Has he gone yet ?

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

What's the tipping point with the board do you think?

I genuinely think it'd have to be exit from both cups and a further league dip for them to even have a look, genuinely, that's how blinkered they are...

 

[Ashtonian]

What's the tipping point with the board do you think?

relegation, or serious danger of it.

Anything else and its plain sailing for Roberto. Sad to think i am not far off the reality there! 11 wins in his last 51 games or something like that. shocking statistics for a manager of a team with a 20 goal a season striker in, more so for the fact he has scored over 50 goals already for martinez.

 

[markmarkmark]

I wish people would get into their heads that he isn't being sacked. We are a mingebag club who won't waste money on compensation to boot out señor nice guy.

He's here to stay for a while yet. That's that. We are where we are in the league because of him AND the players.

 

[Darth Vader]

Lose to Newcastle and it's 5 points from bottom 3, now I don't believe we will go down but surely that's enough for the board to react

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

Are they even looking? Ship looks rudderless to me unless we get new owners.

...it's gonna stay rudderless then mate 'cos there's not gonna be new owners any time soon.

I'd be utterly astonished if that happened or was even REMOTELY near to happening, ergo he's staying WELL put.

 

[bluewally]

It's ok. We play attacking football now. That's all that matters

 

[craigw]

I wish people would get into their heads that he isn't being sacked. We are a mingebag club who won't waste money on compensation to boot out señor nice guy.

He's here to stay for a while yet. That's that. We are where we are in the league because of him AND the players.

Fans can always force a Manager out. If it was to get too bad then it would be up to the match goers to force it. IE by demonstrating.

 

[Shagster]

I genuinely think it'd have to be exit from both cups and a further league dip for them to even have a look, genuinely, that's how blinkered they are...

Do you think they are holding funds back to bring in players this window because they may have to pull the trigger in the near future?
They must realise the atmosphere at goodison is toxic...thing is the fans are never wrong - bad for business

 

[edge]

It's ok. We play attacking football now. That's all that matters

Yes what a attacking team we are took us until nearly the last ten minutes of the game to have are first shot on goal second half.
Master class of attractive attacking footy .

 

[royalblue66]

I think the majority of match going fans have had enough of him,time for change.