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Roberto Martinez discussion

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DualityNSNO said:
Organisationally at the back we are poor as all hell, quality in individuals has saved us from a lot more blunders than have already happened.

These mistakes happen EVERY GAME Zat, not just here today. That's what we're trying to tell you. Same defenders seemingly defend well enough for international sides, wonder why that is? Could it be that we don't work on either closing down, or actually defending? Because me and nearly everyone else here thinks so, as that's what the evidence presented on the pitch suggests.
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Last few games how many clean sheets?

@harry lennon was shattered.

Hes gone for 2 up top and niasse was worse than anyone could ever have imagined.

Two of the goals should have been cleared easily.
 
Zatara said:
Seems like 99% of the negative posts blaming the manager for the loss are based around ONE substitution.

Lennon was shot to bits. He's put on a supposed "workhorse and unselfish"forward.

Niasse let him down as did several others.

You realise the crosses should have been stopped at source and the centre backs should have cleared the danger.....

Lukaku missed a penalty.

It was a tactical masterclass before we let in 2 of the goals due to defending which were individuals letting down the team.
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It was a bad substitution mate the total wrong player to come on,I know Lennon was nackered

Don't get me started on crosses,my pet hate
 

Zatara said:
Thats not how we play is it?

In any case Barry wasnt at 100% was he? Perhaps Martinez thought Lennons shattered i will take him off...who should i put on....barrys not looking healthy so do i go for Deulofeu or Niasse?

Hes gone for niasse....
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Dear me, he could have brought Baines on and pushed Oviedo into midfield... or used Ossie who is a midfielder.
To bring another, untried, new to the league forward on was sheer and utter lunacy.
 
peteblue said:
The defence, like the rest of the team had to make up the shortfall because of Miralles. Up until he removed Lennon they were doing ok. We didn't need to score anymore goals, we still had Lukaku on to relieve pressure, he should have brought Barry on and that was his big call. He got it wrong and it's pointless defending it.......
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You dont think that Barry being unfit for the game affected his thinking on bringing him on which is why he left it as late as possible?

Seems quite clear to me.
 
Zatara said:
Thats not how we play is it?

In any case Barry wasnt at 100% was he? Perhaps Martinez thought Lennons shattered i will take him off...who should i put on....barrys not looking healthy so do i go for Deulofeu or Niasse?

Hes gone for niasse....
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That's just rubbish mate with all due respect. If Barry couldn't even play 13 minutes why was he on the bench.....and then after it's 2-2 he brings him on.....pure lunacy......
 

Zatara said:
Seems like 99% of the negative posts blaming the manager for the loss are based around ONE substitution.

Lennon was shot to bits. He's put on a supposed "workhorse and unselfish"forward.

Niasse let him down as did several others.

You realise the crosses should have been stopped at source and the centre backs should have cleared the danger.....

Lukaku missed a penalty.

It was a tactical masterclass before we let in 2 of the goals due to defending which were individuals letting down the team.
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It was a tactical masterclass up until Martinez committed tactical suicide and put us down to 9 men with 15 minutes still to play
 

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