Roberto Martinez discussion

[Toast]

Anyway thanks to those who took the time to sensibly answer my question.

Bit mad when you calm down for a minute and think about it?

Nice to have a break from the hysteria in this thread for a few minutes too.

Anyway don't let me spoil the fun. Back to it lids.

Ok,
That Jags is a gash captain, top player like.

Weak.

 

[dannyboy]

Indeed mate. I did think of Barnsley as the other option but in the second half we done, in my humble opinion, more than enough to take the tie.

Quite mad when you ponder that question though. Makes you wonder how far away we really are.

Probably a manager with a better grasp on how to drill a defensive unit.

He's got to climb down from his opinion that we're brilliant and just need a change of luck. He needs to change the tactics, because at the end of the day moaning gets like me aren't going to be appeased until there are bigger numbers in the wins column.

You hear the platitude about good teams winning when they play badly. If we could learn how to win when we play well then we'd probably be in the top 4 now.

 

[Brownie]

My word Ross Barkley is a hell of a player.

 

[Goat]

My word Ross Barkley is a hell of a player.

Leave it Browns, not in here lad.

 

[willo30]

He's capable of outplaying pretty much every team in the league and is a young manager. You could say he can learn new skills. You could say he never will.

Only time will tell.

That's the issue. How much time should he be given. If it wasn't for his first season then he'd have gone last summer in my opinion. That first season only bought him this season to see which one was the blip.
It might look great at times but it's not winning games which must be the goal at the end of the day.

 

[Toast]

My word Ross Barkley is a hell of a player.

Bit lazy and unfit though ?

 

[JAYTALITY]

Martinez's premier league record reads; 16th, 16th, 15th, 18th, 5th, 11th, currently 12th.

Which one is the freak season?

It's becoming more increasingly obvious that 5th was a perfect combination of Moyes solidness and Martinez gun-ho approach. I even thought about it at the time, then last season happened and reinforced it but i gave him this season to prove the theory wrong.

The cult leader on here can't give Martinez enough credit for that 5th place finish, when it comes to the last two seasons it's everyone else's fault. Claiming Bobby's building/developing something, after finishing 5th building something would be a champions league side but 11th, and 12th this season, destruction comes to mind, not building.

 

[willo30]

It's becoming more increasingly obvious that 5th was a perfect combination of Moyes solidness and Martinez gun-ho approach. I even thought about it at the time, then last season happened and reinforced it but i gave him this season to prove the theory wrong.

The cult leader on here can't give Martinez enough credit for that 5th place finish, when it comes to the last two seasons it's everyone else's fault. Claiming Bobby's building/developing something, after finishing 5th building something would be a champions league side but 11th, and 12th this season, destruction comes to mind, not building.

I'd say it had more to do with Stubbs than Moyes. Stubbs left and we've gone downhill defensively since.

 

[chicoazul]

His record as you know for 2 seasons is appalling. Give me a reason why he should not be fired for that?

See below mate.

Don't want to

 

[tim cahill]

Mate, not rose tinted at all here, but Liverpool are gash.
Jammy mistake from the goalie and a jarg penno against Palace, and they are boss all of a sudden.

If Martinez plays Del... And what's gone on there like.. Against Liverpool we ruin them.

I agree that they're crap. On paper we should beat them. But you could say that about loads of teams we've failed to beat this season.

 

[Kiwi]

Can you all stop making me believe again, I was happy in my darkness.

Unhappy but comfortable in that misery. I'm no seer but I reckon there's a light at the end of the tunnel. I dunno whether Martinez is the man to get us there, but he has the rest of the season to show us and the board one way or the other.

 

[Brownie]

Leave it Browns, not in here lad.

I'm just saying, would Roberto be where is now without Barks, that's the question.

 

[Toast]

I'd say it had more to do with Stubbs than Moyes. Stubbs left and we've gone downhill defensively since.

Steady..

@Mikey_Fitzgerald

 

[Carlito]

I still don't understand why scoring goals without even attempting to keep a clean sheet is considered impressive. It's the sort of garbage you get from the likes of Redknapp, Mowbray, Holloway and di Matteo, and generally leads to nothing in the long-term.

I'm at a complete loss every time I read/hear someone compare this blasé approach to that of a manager as meticulous and dedicated as Guardiola.

 

[balggy]

He's capable of outplaying pretty much every team in the league and is a young manager. You could say he can learn new skills. You could say he never will.

Only time will tell.

I hope that he learns because there are positives.

But whilst you say he is a young manager, he took the Swansea job in 2007.

After nine years in management, I'm not sure he can play the inexperienced card. Lessons should be learned.