Roberto Martinez discussion

[daz4matty]

You new to Everton mate?

Even if we did win at Anfield, pushing up the league requires winning more than two in a row. Something we are yet to show we can do this season?

He is only a kid mate

 

[bluestevon]

But for the ref we would have beaten city and been in the final.

No we wouldn't - the ref didn't give a decision that cost us last kick of the game did he? He made the wrong call with over 20 minutes left Zat and us under the coche, we would hav elost that game anyway regardless of that call

 

[neil999]

Maybe he won't say we have a problem in public.. because he knows we have a problem and he doesn't have the ability to fix it

he may be fighting for his job for all we know...

conspiracy theory on the niasse sub - look what i bought and what he can do

 

[sheffcal]

Maybe he won't say we have a problem in public.. because he knows we have a problem and he doesn't have the ability to fix it

Unfortunately I think this is probably very accurate. He's had ages to sort out our problems and simply hasn't. Its not good enough.

 

[Zatara]

It's not the first time I've said this, but... you know if he just put his hands up, said he got it wrong and indicated a willingness to change it... I'd give him some slack. Honestly I would. As it would indicate he has something pragmatic about him that can acknowledge when something doesn't work, and would indicate that he understand he needs to improve his mindset to management at this level.

It's the absolute lack of self-awareness that turns me against him more than anything else. These comments are as predictable as they are disheartening.

It's just so annoying. I badly wanted to like the manager after Moyes, and in theory everything Martinez wants to do is right, but the theory just doesn't come off in practice as he just lacks the mentality and skill to actually implement it.

Bah.

Do you not feel that he did that in the previous 6 games and also up until lukaku's penalty miss?

 

[mkrudden]

Do you not feel that he did that in the previous 6 games and also up until lukaku's penalty miss?

The 6 games before that, the goals we scored, the goals we conceded are all redundant mate. They show no improvement, they show no skill or game management, they show no managerial ability.

The losses though? They show EVERYTHING.

 

[Lanolin]

He isn't saying in the whole game, and he is mitigating against the turn of form defensively - 2 goals conceded in 6 games. In each of those games we've defended crosses.

You need to use the quotes together to get his point, rather than dissecting it line from line

Well yes, we have. Not particularly well though. Bournemouth's crosses led to a penalty and an absolute gilt edged sitter for Gosling. Villa's led to a goal and other chances, despite them being utterly useless.

This remarkable defensive improvement consisted of a clean sheet against a league one side, one against an under strength Bournemouth, conceding enough goals to lose the game against West Brom, and only conceding one against the league's two worst sides (who, coincidentally we had conceded 0 against when we played them prior to our improvement). The only game which realistically suggests an improvement was Stoke, and even they were in a dire run of form when we played them, having scored a grand total of one in their previous five games.

 

[Zatara]

All sounds nice, but you do realise that you can forget about winning our game in hand when doing those calculations - our game in hand is at Anfield mate - not a prayer we are gonna win that like

Top fan you lad...

i already replied on that also, were going to turn them over.

 

[thebluenosebolt]

Maybe he won't say we have a problem in public.. because he knows we have a problem and he doesn't have the ability to fix it

Thats the crux of it, I don't believe he has the capacity to fix it...It's all quite sad really, How the school of science is now failing Gcse

 

[mkrudden]

Well yes, we have. Not particularly well though. Bournemouth's crosses led to a penalty and an absolute gilt edged sitter for Gosling. Villa's led to a goal and other chances, despite them being utterly useless.

This remarkable defensive improvement consisted of a clean sheet against a league one side, one against an under strength Bournemouth, conceding enough goals to lose the game against West Brom, and only conceding one against the league's two worst sides (who, coincidentally we had conceded 0 against when we played them prior to our improvement). The only game which realistically suggests an improvement was Stoke, and even they were in a dire run of form when we played them, having scored a grand total of one in their previous five games.

So wins, goals scored, goals conceded only matter against sides you deem worthy?
Ok. got it.

 

[Khalekan]

Hang on lads. Let's not jump all over this.

Dave will be on soon to explain what he actually meant.

lol lol lol

 

[mkrudden]

Thats the crux of it, I don't believe he has the capacity to fix it...It's all quite sad really, How the school of science is now failing Gcse

But we were sooooooooooo boss before him though weren't we mate?

 

[Tubey]

Do you not feel that he did that in the previous 6 games and also up until lukaku's penalty miss?

Absolutely not.

 

[Khalekan]

We are not a sacking club.

Billy Bingham, Gordon Lee, Colin Harvey, Mike Walker, Walter Smith wave hello

 

[beautifulthing]

Billy Bingham, Gordon Lee, Colin Harvey, Mike Walker, Walter Smith wave hello

Johnny Carey.