Roberto Martinez discussion

[RomanReigns]

i hear pellegrini might be available in the summer....

 

[Groucho]

Also stuff like "plotters" is just labelling other blues. It's wrong. It's not on.

And on a personal level, I find "coco" a bit cringey. I understand "that useless manager" or "I don't think he knows what he's doing", but 'coco' just looks daft to me.

Anyway, my personal view on Martinez is underwhelmed and disappointed in regard to the talent he has at his disposal. I'd give him until the end of the season at least, but not as long as 18 months.

 

[chicoazul]

Aye, Moyes farmed him out, Warnock sent him back. Bizarre.

Martinez gave him a go, worked out well.

I feel like an odd one out here - I don't hate Martinez with a vengeance but I don't completely love him at the moment either.

Who knew you could have a moderate opinion on the manager these days eh? Seems people want to either tuck him into bed or kill him with fire.

I'm not saying you have to settle for less for Everton, just try to take a moderate view - not liking the manager 100% doesn't mean that you have to actively campaign for his sacking or harangue those who like him. Likewise Martinez fans - you don't have to aggrevate those who dislike him either.

Balance is best and some could do with it when posting here now and again. Try it folks, you might like it.

I honestly think that the polarisation and name calling from both sides dissuades others from posting.
You cannot post a moderate viewpoint without either side launching into a diatribe about how you aren't extreme enough in your viewpoint.
The forum is poorer off with the lack of discussion with the slanging match that this thread has become.

Agreed with both.

 

[Goat]

Trust nobody.

 

[Stanley Parker]

I remember that game well and the booing was entirely justified. You can't just take the game in isolation, you had to appreciate it in the context of the whole season. We'd seen some absolutely awful displays devoid of any tempo or attacking prowess. We were spluttering into life a little in this game as Barkley and Besic injected some verve into midfield (both subsequently moved out of those positions in another master stroke). The crowd was urging the team on and in that one moment Jagielka had a wealth of passing options, he dithered so criminally though and eventually went back to the keeper that it just broke a lot of Evertonians there and then. The score was irrelevant, it was a clear symbol that the philosophy was not about good football but negative conservative passing for passing's sake, the sort of football that delivered a relegation scrape and a bottom half finish.

The crowd were urging the team on at the end of the game, but now you are criticising Martinez for that attitude. Negative play is exactly what you want to preserve a two goal lead.

You may think that it justified booing, but don't assume that everybody shares your opinion.

 

[Groucho]

Ah, the Superfan Complex.

Yes well done mate, you're all ready and waiting for Saturday. Godspeed.

Personal stuff like this (which has earned a threadban) is not wanted folks, for at least the fourth time today.

 

[AaronTheBlue]

Dont hate him just don't want him managing the club anymore


Its true he has improved individuals, but the other side of that coin is he has failed to get those individuals to play as a team.

 

[COYBL25]

I honestly think that the polarisation and name calling from both sides dissuades others from posting.
You cannot post a moderate viewpoint without either side launching into a diatribe about how you aren't extreme enough in your viewpoint.
The forum is poorer off with the lack of discussion with the slanging match that this thread has become.

I hate to say it mate, but I think it's going to get worse, before it gets better !

 

[Stanley Parker]

Oh dear. Is anybody left out there?

 

[Stanley Parker]

Dont hate him just don't want him managing the club anymore

Its true he has improved individuals, but the other side of that coin is he has failed to get those individuals to play as a team.

The only perfect manager, of course, is Pep Guardiola.

I wonder how long it will be before City fans are calling for his head.

 

[BlueToff]

Don't fool yourself mi amigo; the tides are turning and the banners are burning. El fraudo is on a downwards slope

whatever you say I only ever here in Danny Maguire's voice haha

 

[sageyefc]

Sorry if already posted as I slept overnight. From another place...

"Couple of pieces in the last 24 hours claiming senior players are unhappy with Martinez...

I'll just leave these pieces of mob journalism here...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...-faith-in-robert-martinez-ahead-of-crucial/?x

"Telegraph Sport, however, understands that a number of Everton players would like adopt a more savvy approach to trying to protect leads and keep the opposition out. They want to play for a winning team."


http://soccer.nbcsports.com/2016/03...alyzing-the-title-race-with-nine-games-to-go/

"A source recently told ProSoccerTalk that senior players among the Everton dressing room have lost faith in Martinez’s tactics and deem the Spaniard as naive, while another source claims he is not the flavor of the month with the top young talents at the club either."

Matt law though. Doesn't know his arse from his elbow, only sources he has is the voices in his head

 

[nsno-chris]

whatever you say I only ever here in Danny Maguire's voice haha

You'll have to enlighten me to who this chap is.

However you should have faith, our new Commander in Chief is about to take up his role and he'll demand a fine general on the battlefield. A true leader and a master strategist, a general who commands with authority and integrity, a general who will not only with the battle but will win the war....and win it with pride.

The horizon is upon us, and it's looking mighty beautiful; the grass will be greener and our Commander will ensure we will be successful.

For we are Everton

 

[Zatara]

Ha does it come to that really? Immature put downs because someone disagrees? Pleas explain how subbing a striker for a winger is like for like? Which qualities Lennon and Niasse share?

Watch the games and you can work it out for yourself.

As for "immature put downs" you have repeatedly posted in this thread about saturdays match and yet its clear you didnt even watch the game as you have no clue where the players were being played or the formation.

You've underlined that in your last few posts.

What sort of agenda must someone have to come onto an internet site simply to write nonsense about the manager when they didnt even see the game....thats actually quite worrying.

 

[Goat]

Zatman going HAM.