We will be bummed by Chelsea, but a win against Leicester would make us somewhat comfortable until we start finding some confidence again.
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We will be bummed by Chelsea, but a win against Leicester would make us somewhat comfortable until we start finding some confidence again.
A lot of sense mate in your post. But taking a step back you have to say after half an hour "these are shyte so maybe we should press on". I'm a Boberto fan but I think he bottled it tonight and was too scared not to get beat, may a say very Moyes like. Players don't gain confidence from drawing games, wins are what matter and we were awful.
We have, we played it earlier in the year at Anfield, for much the same reasons as we were not on a great run of form and wanted to ensure they didn't waltz through our midfield amd attack a defence that is still a touch nervous. It was even more of a risk this time as they were starting with a back 3 so had more players in midfield, if we'd played our usual two we could well have been overrun.
We also played the formation several times last season, including probably our best game at home vs Arsenal.
Even Mourinho doesn't "demand" three points at home every game - if the circumstances call for it he will setup for a snore draw with an attempt to nick it at the end. That is exactly what Martinez tried to do.
Two problems:
1) it worked once. Once. Against arsenal. Had been hugely ineffective every other time.
2) just want to be clear here, you're comparing league leading Chelsea with...us? Mourinho does that because it's instrumental to WINNING THE LEAGUE. So we're reduced to this because of..survival? If that's the case, Martinez should be sacked at the end of the season regardless.
The 433 it has been used for two different purposes
- once against Arsenal to exploit a specific weakness which was their LB
- twice this season to defend against a weakness of our midfield against Liverpool. We conceeded 1 goal over both games (from a free kick).
I'd say that was a formation being effective at what it is meant to do, especially since last season when we were in much better form we only took 1 point from our two games against them.
Mourinho has been a pragmatist all the time I have watched him. He doesn't care about stats like shots on goal, beautiful football or anything much other than getting the points he feels he needs. If he is in a bad run of form, and he has had that in his career, the first thing he will do is tighten up the defence and get confidence back before embarking on being more attacking. How is that different to what Martinez has done?
When has a team Mourinho has managed ever been this low? Not being funny, but you cant compare the two. Congratulations at keeping a clean sheet, we're STILL 12th because our managers tactics are fn [Poor language removed] ffs. Literally everything that happened last year is a dream at this point. I go to other forums where they discuss and last year almost everyone was saying how they loved how Everton played. Literally everyone at this point is saying how boring we are. I dont give two flying's if this is unpopular but if THIS is how Martinez wants us to play he can do one. Its beyond boring and we're [Poor language removed] at it. The manager's job is to get the best results from the team he has in front of him, its not the fn opposite.
Mourinho teams have had bad runs of form, every manager does. And when those runs have happened he has usually built confidence up in the defence as the first stage in fixing the problem. That has quite frequently meant his teams have played "boring" football. Even when on winning runs Mourinho teams have often played boring football.
A few weeks ago you posted this
He has clearly changed his approach and yet you are still calling for his head.
Mourinho plays 'boring' football most of the time. Difference is his teams have exceptional quality that they can play expansive if they want. We have a manager who relegated another team 2 years ago. Has Mourinho ever had a team where they were relegated? Its not the same at all. We dont press(which worked wonders last year), we have almost literally 0 people in the box, we slow everything down, we play from the back even when under massive pressure, i mean......what am i missing here? I just cannot see how you can think that this is how Everton should play.
He's not changing his 'system' tho. Its still the same football.
The Mighty Quint
Player Valuation: £40m
I've had my doubts this season, I think we all have, but we need to stick with him, a lot of injuries gone against us this season, we've let one goal in from the last 5 league games now, Jags and Stones are buliding a relationship and starting to lock it down.
The more time we give Martinez the better it will get, in time I mean transfer windows, to build the squad in the style he wants to play.
I'm in it for the long haul, he's a good manager, it just takes a bit more time.
The more time we give Martinez the better it will get, in time I mean transfer windows, to build the squad in the style he wants to play.
I'm in it for the long haul, he's a good manager, it just takes a bit more time.
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
He's not going anywhere. Lets all forget that scenario.
He has used a different formation and he has changed to a more counter attacking approach vs possession football.
He can't warp in a completely different team so obviously there are going to be some things the same but not quite sure what you want him to do.
Perhaps I'll understand your complaints better if you describe what you would have done for this game - team, tactics etc , as tbh I am at a loss as to what you are demanding.
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