The only thing I can add to this discussion eggs is of someone said to me Martinez has been sacked tonight, I would be "meh" about it. I just feel so indifferent towards him tbh. I want him to be a success but just watching how lethargic we were today and how much it was like last season just left me a little deflated. Not saying he should be sacked, just saying I wouldn't be that arsed if he was.
....yep, that's about it. Like you, I want him to be good.