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Roberto Martinez Shenanigans: All Reaction Here

How do you feel about the Roberto Martinez hiring?

  • Great hire. He'll do better than Moyes.

    Votes: 65 18.4%

  • Good hire. There were better available.

    Votes: 116 32.9%

  • Meh

    Votes: 59 16.7%

  • Wasn't the worst. Wasn't the best.

    Votes: 96 27.2%

  • We're getting relegated.

    Votes: 17 4.8%
  • Total voters
    353
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My prayers were answered: the usual stupid Dave 'leggy' Whelan none sense.

I think he rivals kenwright for spouting tosh. Imagine those two negotiating? Whelan probably asked for Tracy Island and Bill probably promised a winged unicorn....
 
jazzy said:
Interesting times ahead with Roberto.

Vitor was my No.1 candidate but I agree that RM has many virtues and I will be getting behind him.

The major concern of course is how his teams defend but as we have far better defenders than Wigan you can reasonably hope that this may be mitigated .. One thing is for sure we will look to retain posession far better than under Moyes.

I think that we will line up 3-5-2 which would suit our best 11 :

Howard
Jagielka Heitinga Distin
Coleman Gibson Fellaini Piennar Baines
Miralles Jelavic.

That team ( with Jela on form ) is capable of top 6 perhaps higher and a good run in the cup as well as playing great football.

If we could bring in a Negredo or such like then I would expect 4th or 5th.

Problem is :

a. Will he have to sell any of that team and
b. We are painfully thin in cover.

Relating to b. we have adequate cover at full back and thats about it.
We would need an experienced centre half to support Duffy.

We need at least 1 if not 2 midfielders to augment Osman and Barkley ( particularly given Gibson's fitness record and Fellaini's disciplinary problems.

Up front we need an out and out centre forward to cover.

If we sell Heitinga , Fellaini and or Baines then the problem is of course compounded.

Blue Bill needs to think very carefully about how we are going to support RM. That is the concern - not supporter reaction.

A prudent investment of say £20 million plus a couple of free transfers then good times ahead.

If not sell Fellaini and keep your fingers crossed!
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Martinez has played 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 for much of his managerial career. The 3-4-3 was a switch that helped them beat relegation and carried on into this season. I don't think he will use it here unles a plan b.

Don't like the look of that 3-4-3 formation myself but seeing an England side being dominated by brazil until a switch to it the other night, the difference it made was clear to see.
 
Christiffa25 said:
Bit harsh that mate. For eg. The same staff that were doing well with Harry at spurs went to qpr? Moyes has/is taking staff to utd to replace staff who won the league.

Martinez No.2 is very highly rated, his GK coach was with him at Swansea and woods has to be replaced, his chief scout and fitness coach are hardly the key to success and failure and will work along with our current staff.
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We are losing Round, Woods, Lumsden and our chief scout to United. It was clear Martinez would bring his own people with him as he knows and trusts them. United fans are probably saying same thing there about all the staff who have been shipped out. This happens when managers move. I'd rather he bring people he knows and trusts than risking untested people.
 
Christiffa25 said:
Martinez has played 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 for much of his managerial career. The 3-4-3 was a switch that helped them beat relegation and carried on into this season. I don't think he will use it here unles a plan b.

Don't like the look of that 3-4-3 formation myself but seeing an England side being dominated by brazil until a switch to it the other night, the difference it made was clear to see.
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England played 3 at the back, how did Jags look in that formation
 
Christiffa25 said:
Bit harsh that mate. For eg. The same staff that were doing well with Harry at spurs went to qpr? Moyes has/is taking staff to utd to replace staff who won the league.

Martinez No.2 is very highly rated, his GK coach was with him at Swansea and woods has to be replaced, his chief scout and fitness coach are hardly the key to success and failure and will work along with our current staff.
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Sorry wouldn't say anyone who as been part of a regular relegation scrap could be HIGHLY rated,maybe so so but not tip top imo
 

Christiffa25 said:
Wasn't keen on Martinez at first, looking at all his negatives and being a big moyes fan myself just couldn't get my head round a manager who's just been relegated with his seeming attacking football at all costs approach.

However over the last week that changed. The more you look into it with an open mind the more Martinez makes sense. Make no mistake for Martinez this is his "managerial test", this is where he will prove whether he's overated or underrated, and given our position of being safe in the PL so to speak, I'm glad it's us taking the risk/chance with him.

He's 39! Young and already with PL expierence. Expierence comes in various ways. Not just success but failure, any manager with brains which I firmly believe he has, would have to have learnt from managing Wigan. His defensive side was a major worry to me but let's be realistic...we're not going to all of a sudden ship 70 odd goals, our defenders are 10x better than wigans. We might concede a few more being open, but if we're scoring more and still getting results who care's. And with the current back room staff it's certainly something that can be worked on (look at arsenal with Steve bold this season).

He transfer's have been good, when you consider he was signing players willing to play for Wigan. They surely must of been year on year one of the bottom 3 attractive propositions for players looking to sign for a club. I don't know exactly what wigans top wage was but I'd be suprised if it was more than 20k. Everton will open up a whole new world for him on this front.

He's a risk sure, as would be any of the other mooted replacements. I'm very intrigued if I'm honest to see what he can do with this set of players and how effective his change in style could be (or not). It may also help us not being a known substance to other teams who use tactics against us to get a point. We may suprise a few of those! If things go well he's another manager who could and would be happy to spend 10yrs or so here which I think is important and again if all goes well could be another manager we lose to one of the biggest biggest team...probably in Spain!

So doubters chill....take your VP specs off and look at Martinez with a open mind, you will feel better and optimistic....

If it all goes Titt's up laudrup would be cheaper next summer!!
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Spot on, good post, exactly how I feel about the situation really. Just hope we only give him a 1 or 2 year contract, to protect ourselves just in case it goes wrong.
 
overkill said:
That would be a bad decision.....I hope he gets a 1 year deal...so if were 16th come christmas we have the option to sack him.
Hes been on a 1 year rolling contract at wigan anyway
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You're thinking too one sided mate.

He wouldn't accept a one year deal I don't think. Very few managers would. Only desperate ones.
 

overkill said:
No its a fair point its stupid to give him a long contract
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I can see why you are making that point as you want the best for Everton. Nothing wrong with that.

But open your mind, and imagine you were the incoming manager. 'Hang on, why are they only offering me one year? they clearly have no faith in me. I'm not signing that.'
 
Didn't want RM in the first place I think it's a terrible appointment, for me he's cv doesn't warrant a job at Everton, like all blues I hope he succeeds, and I'll give him my full support, but there's nothing that convinces me that he will be success.
 

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