How did he do at Valencia? Worse than G Neville? And Benfica?...
He won the Copa Del Rey with a team that were already in free fall hence why they sacked Flores. Anyway, Valencia is circus of a club and not one to use as a yard stick
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How did he do at Valencia? Worse than G Neville? And Benfica?...
Disagree mate.
We needed a medium between Moyes/Martinez.
Koeman might be a name - but his record before EFC doesnt offer me much hope he can do the business here. He did OK at Southampton - big thrill.
How did he do at Valencia? Worse than G Neville? And Benfica?...
Conversely, Pochettinos record was no great shakes when Tottenham took him. He's doing ok.
Neither.
De Boer would be a shot in the dark.
Koeman has done decent at Southampton. Big thrill? Prior that what did he do at Valencia, Benfica and the rest? Football nomad and flavour of the month like Laudrup/Swansea was after Moyes left.
I think Koeman is doing at Southampton what Moyes was doing at Everton all those years ago. Fair play to him.
Fans have a tendency to look at just the last year or two in isolation - wider picture for Koeman;
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I look at all those teams, he has been quickly moved on in succession and wonder...
Valencia and Benfica were going on for a decade ago mate...
He did very well with Southampton - not 'ok'
To improve on what Poch built there in his first two years in English football? Give him time.
He's got a lot of improvements to make, but at this stage I find it utterly ridiculous how people are jumping on his back, given the tosh we've had to put up with before...
I'm not saying I want him sacked. I'm just saying that i think you're wrong in saying he won't be sacked if we lose our next 3. I think it would definitely happen. To be honest, if he doesn't win any of the next 5 tho, then I'd get rid too. Not because I think he's a bad manager, but because if we get to that point, it categorically won't have worked out.
That said I'm confident we won't get to that stage, but it's a serious situation .
He won the Copa Del Rey with a team that were already in free fall hence why they sacked Flores. Anyway, Valencia is circus of a club and not one to use as a yard stick
Jumping on his back due to the performances they are witnessing and thoroughly deserved too.
What are our players? like honestly what are they?
I don't think he'll get sacked before he's had at least another window - and nor should he be.
Mosh won't panic
He needs time. He is working some of the most unprofessional players I've seen in years. They don't care. They downed tools under Martinez and some of them just can't seem to pick them back up again.
James McCarthy would rather leave and go to Newcastle in the Championship than fight for his place here.
I don't think we will see the best of Koeman till next season.
Even at the start of the season when we were winning games, Koeman said that we still were not at the right level or playing well enough. He has warned us for long enough. If anything the club let him down in the summer with the lack of signings. I expect a huge change in playing staff over the next two windows. A lot of the old guard, Jagielka etc will be shown the door too.
You can't expect miracles, just look at United and they've spent loads. Stop demanding instant success and just give it time.
But how do the players (that have been putting in these displays for nye on three years) get away with it mate?
We are fundamentally a mid-table side - based on the squad we have we're right about where we belong.
That needs to change, but the new manager needs more than 15 games to do that.
Moshiri: "He's Koeman. He does what he wants"
Hopefully no Sissoko or Kones to add to Bolasie balls up in January.
He's had 15 games. That is not enough time.
He inherited a mess.
His first 15 they may be but they have been dreadful I don't care who he is or what his reputation is, the fact is he is under-performing quite substantially.
The players may not be as good as they or us thought but a good man manager would still motivate them, he seem to be lacking in that are for me, his man management skills just don't exist, he prefers to throw them under the bus than take responsibility.