Ronald Koeman discussion

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Very valid point made here i think in the Liverpool Echo's comments section.

A giant of world football with an excellent managerial record is struggling in his first 6 months after the club dropped the ball in signing several players he wanted. He's left with the underachieving players from a rubbish managers former project. Is it possible Ronald knows what he's doing and part of the purpose of telling the world his players aren't physically strong is a method of getting them to prove him wrong in the right way? There's no point you saying we should press like Barcelona or play the kids, and man in the pub will say the exact same easy fix. Give Ronald time, and judge him on his results with his own squad.
 
The other thing I meant to add before was that normally, if you put a bunch of high level sports people or other professionals under the spotlight and a bit of pressure - as Koeman has- you would expect the leaders to emerge and the people with a point to prove to stand up and be counted.

But unfortunately this bunch of talentless bottlers currently occupying the Royal Blue have form for doing just the opposite - the minute there is the slightest pressure on their shoulders and an occasion to rise to, they have consistently failed and continue to do so. Apparently when Mourinho first arrived at Chelsea, he said to the squad, 'there are only 3 Champions in this room - me, Ricardo Carvallo and Ferreira. The rest of you are not Champion quality.' He provoked the response out of Gallas, Terry, Lampard, Gudjohnson and Co.

This week with Arsenal (televised) and Liverpoo (likewise), both under the lights at Goodison, there is nowhere for the current players to hide. Let's see if we get a response or not at home to Arsenal tomorrow and Der Redmen on Monday.

The eternal Everton optimist in me hopes that either we'll actually get our players showing a bit of pride in themselves, fighting for the shirt and their place, and giving a paying public their money's worth.

Or (more likely) perhaps this week is going to be massive short term pain for longer term gain. Sometimes instead of flogging a dead horse, you had better just go and get yourself a new horse.
 

If a Utd fan said he thought they should sack Jose you'd probably tell him to wise up and give him time after successive poor managers. Same here with Ron. This time next season is when we'll see if he's for us or no.
 
If a Utd fan said he thought they should sack Jose you'd probably tell him to wise up and give him time after successive poor managers. Same here with Ron. This time next season is when we'll see if he's for us or no.
Pep is also having a terrible run. It takes time but it just how it looks to the fans is what is frustrating people . It appears there is a lack of effort
 
I'm to be convinced by Ronald yet. And I do think he should have kept the players onside as much as he could (until the transfer window). But, if its to be believed that the consensus is the players aren't trying for him because they're cheesed off he's criticised them in public, or that he'll bring players in to replace them, then its very poor on their part. They're paid professionals. This lot have had many chances under this and the last regime. I don't see them massively improving now under a new manager either. Apart from one or two individuals, the only way is down after leaving us. They should be fighting tooth and nail to stay here. Days are numbered I'm afraid!
 

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