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Ronald Koeman discussion

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banno said:
Joey it sounds like you don't want to allow any transition. Can you tell us what youngsters he hasn't given game time to are good enough to be selected? We may on the the surface have a good youth set up but is that because of the position the U23's are in. Maybe the other clubs have most of there youngsters out on loan hence weakened U23's...I don't know! Maybe that international cup tournament that we bombed out of has given us a better yard stick to measure them! Just maybe the oldies are more reliable than the youngsters at this moment!
The only thing I know is transition is usually up and down and when we were in a downward spiral he turned to a defensive set up as Moyes always used and try to nick goals. Bolasie was as inconsistent as anyone but he is a good player. Forget the fee we paid and compare him to the rest and he isn't as bad as half of them. The fee is always used as a measuring stick yet we all know to get him we had to pay well over the odds. Still reckon Bolasie was bought with Kukakus approval and recommendation. Have patience Joey...you did with Kendall didn't you?
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I actually think the Bolasie deal was a "silent" condition placed by Lukaku to get him to stay another year
 
I love the way "transition season" has become the on fleek phrase on this thread.

It reminds me of the early days of pop music when bands tried getting serious and were making "concept albums" to describe their transition from regular rock to some perceived higher art form of the genre :pint2:

Sergeant Pepper, Pet Sounds, Tommy, Ogden's Nutgone Flake, Beggar's Banquet etc. :)
 

Khalekan said:
I love the way "transition season" has become the on fleek phrase on this thread.

It reminds me of the early days of pop music when bands tried getting serious and were making "concept albums" to describe their transition from regular rock to some perceived higher art form of the genre :pint2:

Sergeant Pepper, Pet Sounds, Tommy, Ogden's Nutgone Flake, Beggar's Banquet etc. :)
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Like the way when Martinez trained out Moyes's defending practice and we see the real Martinez in his 2nd and 3rd season. It takes time to put his theory in practice with his team.
 
Its comical, you have people claiming they wanna be like Klopp.

Totally ignoring that hes had 18months to shape the club how he wants, the tactics, the players and thats with a club that has spent a vast sum of money on players the last 5 years.

"Omelettes, eggs. No eggs, no omelettes. And it depends on the quality of the eggs in the supermarket. They are class one, two or three and some are more expensive than others and some give you better omelettes. When the class one eggs are not available you have a problem."

We are a team that has finished 11th for 2 seasons, not a single pot in 21 long god years, yet people think just cos Ronny is paid 6m a season he can just walk in and click his fingers.

No, he needs time, he needs players, talented players that want to achieve, players that fit into the system he wants to play.

Hes been in the job for 6months and had 1 utterly failure of a window, give him another 2 windows, then lets see if we have made progress 12months from now, judge him after a fair crack of the whip rather than after 5minutes.
 

Khalekan said:
I agree with you about Williams. A very good signing indeed.

I disagree about Bolasie......leaving aside Niasse, Bolasie is possibly the worst value signing we have ever made, considering the price IMO.

It is no accident we started picking up points again almost from the moment he was injured when we trailed Manchester United.

Sorry :(
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Deciding he is the worst value signing we have ever made after 4 months? I'm sorry, I can't take your opinion seriously on that short term, shallow minded basis.
 
MoutsGoat said:
Its comical, you have people claiming they wanna be like Klopp.

Totally ignoring that hes had 18months to shape the club how he wants, the tactics, the players and thats with a club that has spent a vast sum of money on players the last 5 years.

"Omelettes, eggs. No eggs, no omelettes. And it depends on the quality of the eggs in the supermarket. They are class one, two or three and some are more expensive than others and some give you better omelettes. When the class one eggs are not available you have a problem."

We are a team that has finished 11th for 2 seasons, not a single pot in 21 long god years, yet people think just cos Ronny is paid 6m a season he can just walk in and click his fingers.

No, he needs time, he needs players, talented players that want to achieve, players that fit into the system he wants to play.

Hes been in the job for 6months and had 1 utterly failure of a window, give him another 2 windows, then lets see if we have made progress 12months from now, judge him after a fair crack of the whip rather than after 5minutes.
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Good post undies
 

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