neil999
Player Valuation: £80m
and look at the teams above us, MILES better squads
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and look at the teams above us, MILES better squads
Klinker
Player Valuation: £950k
I am not one who wants Koeman gone, because I do think he is a good manager and he needs several windows to bring in his players and shape the team in his vision. That does not mean there arent legitimate issues and concerns. I do people have a right to be less than thrilled with the quality of matches put on display. While we have been getting better results than last season we have also played some truly dreadful looking football. I am not talking about shutting down a team and winning 1-0 a la Mourinho, but more of looking sloppy not stringing together passes, playing as a cohesive unit but stumbling to a 1-0 win (like this past Monday). Some of this is on the players but halfway through the season you would think Koeman would have gotten more consistent performances. If you watched Southampton the past few years and watch us play this season, we do not play like a Koeman team. This is more dissapointing than a full on blame.
However, my biggest cause for concern is we are halfway through the season and Koeman does not seem to know who his best squad is or the best formation. I could understand feeling out the team in the beginning and doing some experimenting, or even having some weak spots in the lineup due to the squad quality, but all of this inconsistency is not helping us play to our best. Fortunately it seems that he is starting to figure things out. The past few games show that he recognizes that we play better when we have two engines in the midfield and Barry is on the bench. We are also seeing that we are disjointed in linking the midfield to the attack with Barkley out of the lineup.
I think Koeman's talent will show itself by the end of the season but he is far from blameless and I can understand some fans frustrations (although naturally there are plenty who I think go overboard with the criticism).
However, my biggest cause for concern is we are halfway through the season and Koeman does not seem to know who his best squad is or the best formation. I could understand feeling out the team in the beginning and doing some experimenting, or even having some weak spots in the lineup due to the squad quality, but all of this inconsistency is not helping us play to our best. Fortunately it seems that he is starting to figure things out. The past few games show that he recognizes that we play better when we have two engines in the midfield and Barry is on the bench. We are also seeing that we are disjointed in linking the midfield to the attack with Barkley out of the lineup.
I think Koeman's talent will show itself by the end of the season but he is far from blameless and I can understand some fans frustrations (although naturally there are plenty who I think go overboard with the criticism).
1 Manchester City £216m £205m £193.8m £225m
2 Manchester United £187m £215.8m £203m £220.8m
3 Chelsea £190m £192.7m £215.6m £218m
4 Arsenal £166.4m £180.4m £192m £200.5m
5 Liverpool £140m £144m £152m £165.6m
6 Tottenham £112m £100.4m £110.5m £121.2m
7 Everton £66m £69.3m £74.7m £83m
Thats the gap we need to close.
windymiller
Player Valuation: £60m
Agreed. And the best way to do that is to massively increase revenues. With Chang expiring in 6 months and the disgraceful Kitbag deal expiring in (I think) 18 months, not to mention the potential stadium development, we will find out how (and if) Mr Moshiri will transform us.
mites
Player Valuation: £5m
The idea that koeman doesn't know his best eleven is bizarre to me. We aren't a team that can play through every opposition and he's a pragmatic coach who has always utilized different formations. Even keeping those things in mind his adjustments have been for injuries, suspensions or players woefully out of form like Ross and Jags.
Blues Harp
Player Valuation: £60m
I love the way "transition season" has become the on fleek phrase on this thread.
It reminds me of the early days of pop music when bands tried getting serious and were making "concept albums" to describe their transition from regular rock to some perceived higher art form of the genre
Sergeant Pepper, Pet Sounds, Tommy, Ogden's Nutgone Flake, Beggar's Banquet etc.
All brilliant albums as well....if our "transition" period is a quarter as good then we won't be doing too badly....providing"irreconcilable musical differences" don't raise their head..I love the way "transition season" has become the on fleek phrase on this thread.
It reminds me of the early days of pop music when bands tried getting serious and were making "concept albums" to describe their transition from regular rock to some perceived higher art form of the genre
Sergeant Pepper, Pet Sounds, Tommy, Ogden's Nutgone Flake, Beggar's Banquet etc.
All brilliant albums as well....if our "transition" period is a quarter as good then we won't be doing too badly....providing"irreconcilable musical differences" don't raise their head..
But the sad thing is the bands concerned never did transit to greater things.
The first four was as good as it got for The Beatles, The Who, The Beach Boys and the Small Faces.
Only the Stones got any better after their concept album
Jack1882
Player Valuation: £950k
There's a good video about what we are doing to try and close the same gap. It's tough but for us it largely comes down to getting through this transitional period and into the new stadium. Match-day income really can make a large difference, as well as the sponsorship deals that come with it all. Much of this video is relevant for Everton as well I would imagine as you will need to find a way to do something similar.
Agreed. The man-baby needs time, and even those of us who aren't convinced by him (like me) need to accept that it would take a rare coach to turn a team completely around in a few months. Guns need to be reholstered until at least a years' time imo, the chap needs our support.
EFCccc
Player Valuation: £15m
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Guessing at wage bills.
You know, one positive thing about Koeman is that he's not afraid to switch it up at a moment's notice. Twice in recent memory he's fielded notably bizarre combinations (Arsenal, Leicester) and twice he's achieved results. At this relative infancy of his tenure, it's a brave and logical thing to do. Just wish he'd apply the same logic to Lukaku as he does with other players and bench/move him when he's clearly underperforming
That's a good point tbf. I think if you took a straw poll of what people expected at the start of the season, it would be 7th on the nose. The inconsistency of performance is probably the source of peoples' frustration
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