Ronald Koeman discussion

[davek]

So far, on the transfer In Tray, yes, it is a tad light.

But lets just see.

It will get better. I think we all know that. Principally because it can't afford not to get better.

I can understand why there is a lot of frustration. Raise expectations and fail to fulfil them and that's only natural.

 

[Goat]

The world and it's wife have been stating that it's the Pogba deal going through that will fire the starter pistol on the transfer window. I don't know if it has actually been finalised, but hopefully it will be like the cork on a champagne bottle popping, and all our targets, Mata, Witsel Koubilay etc will topple into Finch Farm 48hrs later

It will be more like chess rather than champagne bottle.

 

[orly]

We currently lack a weapon.

Nah, we've got @KUEFC09U2 for that role

Oh whoops

 

[The Esk]

I'm not sure a good way to run a football business is to make it difficult for your manager to hit the ground running in his opening season here.

With the best will in the world the summer's relative inactivity in the market can't be seen as evidence that we've turned a new page in the way this club operates.

Oh it absolutely can. Just look who we have targeted Mata, Witsel, Carvalho, Koulibaly, acquired 'the most influential person in the PL' (author SAF) in Walsh. Convinced Raiola that Lukaku should stay. Cleared debt, progressed stadium talks. We will make signings including our key targets.

Chalk and cheese, Everton under Moshiri in comparison to Everton under Kenwright.

 

[Groucho]

You're a WUM. You have no evidence at all to back that up. Bitter little Mard arse.

Rich after 24 months of your posts crying.

Ladies and gentleman, this is what an absolute idiot looks like.

Or we could just read your posts and wonder if you have an education as usual.

2:1 BSc (Hons), mate.

Thanks for the concern.

Are you attempting to call me a peadophile?

Are you drunk?

Lads if you want to argue like this please take it to PM.

 

[bizzaro]

Oh it absolutely can. Just look who we have targeted Mata, Witsel, Carvalho, Koulibaly, acquired 'the most influential person in the PL' (author SAF) in Walsh. Convinced Raiola that Lukaku should stay. Cleared debt, progressed stadium talks. We will make signings including our key targets.

Chalk and cheese, Everton under Moshiri in comparison to Everton under Kenwright.

Agreed.

Its the internet-age - 'WANT TO SEE PROGRESS NOW!' brigade that simply won't agree that any progress is being made as its not progress they can see.

If they look at what is going on in the background and what potentially might be happening in the next 18 months there is no comparison to the earlier regime.

The key thing is we need a couple of signings to shut this brigade up.

So we can focus on football.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

It will be more like chess rather than champagne bottle.

Yup...it's as much about us getting players in as other clubs trying to keep us from gatecrashing.

 

[suey_11]

Oh it absolutely can. Just look who we have targeted Mata, Witsel, Carvalho, Koulibaly, acquired 'the most influential person in the PL' (author SAF) in Walsh. Convinced Raiola that Lukaku should stay. Cleared debt, progressed stadium talks. We will make signings including our key targets.

Chalk and cheese, Everton under Moshiri in comparison to Everton under Kenwright.

Really really hope so but at the moment it all seems like more of the same.

Inability for whatever reason to get one of our lofty targets over the line has not helped, especially with how the Kenwright era went.

I mentioned in another thread Moshiri maybe shouldn't have built our hopes up.

I believe we are in a much much better position but or hopes have been built up and anything less than a couple of those targets you've mentioned would look like failure.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Oh it absolutely can. Just look who we have targeted Mata, Witsel, Carvalho, Koulibaly, acquired 'the most influential person in the PL' (author SAF) in Walsh. Convinced Raiola that Lukaku should stay. Cleared debt, progressed stadium talks. We will make signings including our key targets.

Chalk and cheese, Everton under Moshiri in comparison to Everton under Kenwright.

As has been said before, it's all completely irrelevant as it stands with us looking in a mess 6 days from the season.

I don't really care about what we try to do, I care about what we achieve. And so far we look like we're out of our depth. Surely you can't claim this situation is ideal, or what was hoped for?

 

[jcgefc]

Oh it absolutely can. Just look who we have targeted Mata, Witsel, Carvalho, Koulibaly, acquired 'the most influential person in the PL' (author SAF) in Walsh. Convinced Raiola that Lukaku should stay. Cleared debt, progressed stadium talks. We will make signings including our key targets.

Chalk and cheese, Everton under Moshiri in comparison to Everton under Kenwright.

I love your confidence mate but I must admit i'm starting to feel a touch nervous about our current situation.

 

[Efcpablo]

Without searching for the evidence, I thought Koeman had a reputation for dealing late in the window? (Happy to be corrected on that).

I'm expecting movement this week on several of our primary targets now Pogba move is concluding.

Good business is often about judging when is the best time to change strategy when things appear not to be going your way. I don't think the club (Moshiri, Walsh and Koeman ) feel we have reached that point yet - for good reason.

No mate reputation for signing early...not much late action at Southampton. Although the system in place would probably have helped that, as we are starting fresh that is probably a big part of it.

 

[davek]

Oh it absolutely can. Just look who we have targeted Mata, Witsel, Carvalho, Koulibaly, acquired 'the most influential person in the PL' (author SAF) in Walsh. Convinced Raiola that Lukaku should stay. Cleared debt, progressed stadium talks. We will make signings including our key targets.

Chalk and cheese, Everton under Moshiri in comparison to Everton under Kenwright.

Under Kenwright (and I'm not advocating his return, merely putting your points into context) we also targeted players and never got them; we smashed to pieces the club record fee (Lukaku) and that made a big noise in the PL at the time; we progressed two stadiums - one to the point where one single boardroom decision could have secured us an iconic home on a world heritage site.

I'm not feeling tectonic plates shifting here, tbh.

I've siad earlier that it's way too early to conclude what Moshiri's impact will be, but I think it's equally correct to suggest what we've seen so far hasn't been of monumental importance. It's more status quo than reboot.

 

[bring the ghost on]

Weve just wasted a fortune on Koeman when Unsworth could do better.

God almighty, are you actually trolling?

Koeman

• Dutch title - 2001/02, 2003/04, 2006/07
• Dutch domestic cup - 2001/02
• Copa del ray - 2007/08
• Highest ever premier league finish & points tally for Southampton

Unsworth

• Caretake manager for one game at Everton.

Pipe down and get behind our new manager FFS.

 

[Stan Lee Park]

Oh it absolutely can. Just look who we have targeted Mata, Witsel, Carvalho, Koulibaly, acquired 'the most influential person in the PL' (author SAF) in Walsh. Convinced Raiola that Lukaku should stay. Cleared debt, progressed stadium talks. We will make signings including our key targets.

Chalk and cheese, Everton under Moshiri in comparison to Everton under Kenwright.

So far we have had several unsuccessful attempts to buy reasonable players, appointed a manager who has shown some potential in the PL, possibly retained a petulant, out of form striker, no evidence of paying off any of the debt, talked a lot about a new stadium and have blind faith that we will sign a few players once the season has started.
Not much to go on there.

 

[turner]

Under Kenwright (and I'm not advocating his return, merely putting your points into context) we also targeted players and never got them; we smashed to pieces the club record fee (Lukaku) and that made a big noise in the PL at the time; we progressed two stadiums - one to the point where one single boardroom decision could have secured us an iconic home on a world heritage site.

I'm not feeling tectonic plates shifting here, tbh.

I've siad earlier that it's way too early to conclude what Moshiri's impact will be, but I think it's equally correct to suggest what we've seen so far hasn't been of monumental importance. It's more status quo than reboot.

Classic davek. Defending kenwright to the bitter end. That is so typical of you.