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Never gets old lol
I wouldn't accept any old rubbish this season, this season needs to be better than the last. Transitional or not it has to be better, nobody gets a free run to me.YeeHaw.......you tell 'em, fella
And that bit I highlighted?
File under last week's buzz phrase round these parts......"transitional season".
Manchester United are into their fourth "transitional season" since Ferguson retired
We need to remember our last 2 managers have been under totally different circumstances.
Moyes left and Martinez came in and his job was to keep us where we were to start with. He did that comfortably then took us to 11th and 13th (when he left). He had to go.
Martinez was sacked and Koeman was brought in and his goal was to be better than the previous manager. Don't think there is any argument that this is happening at the moment.
People can put this down to transition if they want but for me we needed stability which looks like we have now and a marked improvement in results. I will reserve judgement on my expectation for next season until I can see the quality of players we are able to attract now and in the summer.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
You should read it, Chris......it ain't half bad.
He makes an excellent point that Koeman would have been a splendid appointment for Uncle Billy, insofar he is a Moyes-esque "steady Eddie" type, perfectly suited to keeping the good ship EFC chugging along in the wake of the cruise liners, but ahead of the container boats, in an era when we were skint.
And that Martinez, or a tilter at windmills of that ilk, would have been a better appointment for Mr. Mo because the current manager did not capture the prevailing zeitgeist in the summer just gone when he was needing someone to put a face, and a voice, to the grandiose plans he has for the club.
There is one splendid passage in it where he describes the prospect us winning the 7th Place Trophy as being like getting into a "hot bathtub with Rihanna" for many of our friends on here
And he reckons @davek is more trolled against than trolling
A great post.
An early contender for "post of the year" and January not a week old.
Top stuff @njligernj
COYBB
Mansour bought City in the summer of 2008. The previous season they finished 9th. The following three seasons they finished 10th, 5th and 3rd, before winning the title in 2012. Isn't that 'steady progress'?
It's unlikely we'll experience the level of sustained investment City did, of course.
As for Koeman, he's achieved roughly what would be expected of any competent manager with this squad in terms of results. Our football has neither been particularly entertaining nor as bad as some make out, and we'll have to wait another couple of transfer windows before we get a proper idea of what he's looking to develop.
His comments in the media have been less than impressive. Martinez was embarrassing as soon as results turned and gladly Koeman isn't that bad, but he doesn't seem to see this job as a long term thing and we should probably get used to the idea he'll only be here for a few years.
Literally only thing I read, then my mind went on a crazy adventure
Good post Nige.
I wanted a better version of Martinez to take over basically and then build a squad with a similar, but again better, progressive outlook.
IMHO we got average and steady in Koeman. It's not the end of the world, but it's not very exciting and is not going to get us near top 4 or success anytime soon I think.
I was a bit worried his recruitment policy while here might leave us without the tools for the next manager to build a decent footballing team, but I think the new structure with Walsh at the head should stop us from being setback too much from manager to manager.
You should read it, Chris......it ain't half bad.
He makes an excellent point that Koeman would have been a splendid appointment for Uncle Billy, insofar he is a Moyes-esque "steady Eddie" type, perfectly suited to keeping the good ship EFC chugging along in the wake of the cruise liners, but ahead of the container boats, in an era when we were skint.
And that Martinez, or a tilter at windmills of that ilk, would have been a better appointment for Mr. Mo because the current manager did not capture the prevailing zeitgeist in the summer just gone when he was needing someone to put a face, and a voice, to the grandiose plans he has for the club.
There is one splendid passage in it where he describes the prospect us winning the 7th Place Trophy as being like getting into a "hot bathtub with Rihanna" for many of our friends on here
And he reckons @davek is more trolled against than trolling
A great post.
An early contender for "post of the year" and January not a week old.
Top stuff @njligernj
COYBB
But he seems to assume that we're all happy iwth seventh place, when nobody is saying that.
But, 7th is progress on last year. Realistically, with the quality of and the money spent by the top six, we aren't bridging that gap this season.
But the target has always been top 7. We're on course for that with half of the season played.
We've also got the FA Cup and we could do with a good run.
Then we build again in the summer, by the time Koeman has had three windows to mould the side and Walsh has had three windows to find some 'gems' (for lack of a better term).
Martinez's 'style' has proven not to work.
He's actually adapted with the Belgium role and now pretty much plays a 3-4-3 ala Chelsea, to get the best out of Hazard.
2 seasons of finishing 11th and people are now turning their noses up at 7th as a starting point.
I just dont know what to say.
I just dont know what to say.
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
I am beginning to think that "steady progress" is really just good PR as in one sense it's hard to argue with it logically.
But I have come round to the view that breaking the current stranglehold of the Top 6 is going to require the sort of investment that we can really only dream is there, and that's not being critical of FM. I am wholeheartedly in his corner but we have yet to see declaration of intent - carried though to completion - on transfers.
I'm sure the majority will see it as a good job well done if RK returns us to that level (Top 6) over 2 seasons or more but when all is said and done, he needs to be backed to the extent that Champions League qualification is seen as being a viable prospect, and then judge him, if he is backed to that degree.
We have seen 25+ years come and go at Everton without any generation of managers and players "getting over the line" with the exception of 2004 in what was a dreadful season by the standards of our immediate peers then. Of course we dropped the ball bad luck or not but nearly has never won anything.
Of course, 2 of this years Top 6 will be mightily disappointed come May but even Spurs recently have gotten in on the act of CL football with all the associated prestige and advantages. The financial muscle of those clubs can sustain finishing 5th or 6th for a year or two.
We are accustomed to living without but I feel we are running out of opportunities to make a dent on the modern / Sky-era Premier League. The new stadium would help but we need significant spending also.
But I have come round to the view that breaking the current stranglehold of the Top 6 is going to require the sort of investment that we can really only dream is there, and that's not being critical of FM. I am wholeheartedly in his corner but we have yet to see declaration of intent - carried though to completion - on transfers.
I'm sure the majority will see it as a good job well done if RK returns us to that level (Top 6) over 2 seasons or more but when all is said and done, he needs to be backed to the extent that Champions League qualification is seen as being a viable prospect, and then judge him, if he is backed to that degree.
We have seen 25+ years come and go at Everton without any generation of managers and players "getting over the line" with the exception of 2004 in what was a dreadful season by the standards of our immediate peers then. Of course we dropped the ball bad luck or not but nearly has never won anything.
Of course, 2 of this years Top 6 will be mightily disappointed come May but even Spurs recently have gotten in on the act of CL football with all the associated prestige and advantages. The financial muscle of those clubs can sustain finishing 5th or 6th for a year or two.
We are accustomed to living without but I feel we are running out of opportunities to make a dent on the modern / Sky-era Premier League. The new stadium would help but we need significant spending also.
GwladysPhil
Player Valuation: £35m
7th will most likely get us into the Europa League.
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