Yeah I agree. I think his ceiling is higher than Moyes but I'm just on about what he's done so far. He's had a good start but I've seen him being called a miracle worker which I think is a bit much.Might be a bit harsh to be fair.
I think he's rebuilt the team to what could be deemed as competing for European spots, all in one season. If we hadn't bottled it against the usual teams, things would look even brighter.
I always felt Moyes was at his level, but I feel Everton are not quite at Koemans at the moment. 3 seasons in charge will show if he can take us further than Moyes, just in my opinion of course.
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Blue Cheese
Mental Patient, GOT Ward
On the whole as a season, yes a par, probably a birdie going off last 2 seasons but the actual transformation we have undergone has been clearly visible. Onwards and upwards, next season holds promise...BUT...We say that most years, we fail to take into account our rivals strengthening and as fans it bites us up the preverbial.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Indeed. The most improved teams this season, probably, are us and Chelsea.
That last jump into the elite they have made seen simple. Probably understandable, based on their recent history. The narrative next season for us to get there, assuming the squad is significantly improved, will need a fall from grace of one of them. Maybe 2.
Arse? Strong contenders to fall down.
City, United, Chelsea? Not a chance imo, but of the 3, Jose having a head fit is most likely I guess.
Spurs? Jury will be out till the opening fixture re if Poch is tempted away. Cant see any significant player going from them. Seem strong in that dept.
RS? Hope so obvs. Realistic? You never know with them.
Tough gig elite football.
Blue Cheese
Mental Patient, GOT Ward
Keeps taking Gana off or even not playing him, wonder if he's fatigued? He (gana)kept us afloat before Christmas, we were that bad.
He took him off vs Burnley because we didn't need him and Morgan at the same time. Whereas between taking him or Morgan off we need the control and better offensive/tempo dictating play of Morgan > Gana.
BigDunc'sFod
Player Valuation: £35m
I think he said it could be any one of the midfield three but Gana was on a yellow and that made his decision for him
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
i'd say it's still par really, if we finish 6th i'll give him just about a birdie. i think most managers worth their salt would have improved us on last season, even if we didn't buy anyone, but after the signings we made, i didn't think anything lower than 7th was possible, unless leicester had another crazy season. But the recent smashing of all teams left right and centre at goodison has made it much more positive, especially know we seem to be finishing strong going into the backend of the season. But we probably have the 6th best squad in the league and are 7th mainly because the RS have massively overachieved in their europe-less season. I expect us to improve on 7th next season, but will reserve predictions until i see who we buy and who they buy on what would be par.
Darth Toffeeman
Player Valuation: £40m
If Lukaku is indeed set to depart in the summer I would imagine we will strive to set up like Atletico Madrid.
Their team is set up to firstly remain compact yet offer a threat from all areas of the pitch. Of course Griezman is a vital component but his forward play is nothing like the way we currently attack.
Losing Rom would be very disappointing but I would expect our approach to change drastically should this occur. Will be a big test for Koeman and indeed Walsh but it is one I expect them to rise to. Previously to this season we have had big problems in the midfield in regards to controlling games. In less than a season we have completely transformed that area of the team.
Big summer ahead for all.
Their team is set up to firstly remain compact yet offer a threat from all areas of the pitch. Of course Griezman is a vital component but his forward play is nothing like the way we currently attack.
Losing Rom would be very disappointing but I would expect our approach to change drastically should this occur. Will be a big test for Koeman and indeed Walsh but it is one I expect them to rise to. Previously to this season we have had big problems in the midfield in regards to controlling games. In less than a season we have completely transformed that area of the team.
Big summer ahead for all.
KevMirallas
Player Valuation: £35m
His first job was to consolidate after two years of free fall. Begin to overhaul the squad, get them fit again and make the defence PL standard.
That he has done that, and got us into Europe in his first season, is an excellent start. It might be difficult to remember just how bad it was this time last year, but the turnaround in 12 months has been stark.
It's only the first step though, and he knows that. He and the club have put an excellent platform in place to kick on, but that will likely be harder than the consolidation and rise of this season. But for everything he has done so far, Koeman gets lots of ticks.
That he has done that, and got us into Europe in his first season, is an excellent start. It might be difficult to remember just how bad it was this time last year, but the turnaround in 12 months has been stark.
It's only the first step though, and he knows that. He and the club have put an excellent platform in place to kick on, but that will likely be harder than the consolidation and rise of this season. But for everything he has done so far, Koeman gets lots of ticks.
PeregrineT
Player Valuation: £35m
More "I dont like the truth, who cares about facts". Schneiderlin was 20, Lookman was 7.5, etc etc. Using inflated made up fee numbers, that you COULD have just looked up in 5 seconds doesnt help.
Plus, Gibson 2, Cleverly 7.8 mill, total sold roughly 57. Total spent roughly 74. Counting Valencies loan fee is absurd as long as you arent counting those we loaned out, like Del.
a bell maul
Player Valuation: £30m
Peregrine Took...you are a nuisance of a hobbit!!
Seriously though, you may not be the sharpest Took in the Shire, but I like your trenchant passion.
Net spend again? Really?
The league was nowhere near as competitive when moyes was around imo.
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
I generally agree. My expectation at the beginning of the season was that 7th would be a decent finish. It would reverse the previous couple of years of free fall and give us something to build from - as there are/were 6 teams who on paper looked stronger than us.
It's basically played out more or less exactly that way. I was concerned at the blip we had for about two and a half months from mid-September to the end of November and our early exit in the cups has been annoying, but other than that we've done pretty well. The football has got progressively better as the season has gone on, and other than that horrible spell I mentioned above, the only teams to beat us this season have been Spurs and Liverpool.
Defensively we've improved, we've added some good players, given a lot of time on the pitch to young players and we've begun to ruthlessly clear the decks of a lot of players who aren't deemed up to the standard required.
Koeman stated that his target for this season would be European qualification. Barring some sort of huge collapse, he has achieved that. I'm perfectly satisfied (though I admit I was a bit worried in November). We've put a distance between us and the 13 clubs below us, the target now is to catch those in the six places above that, which will take some doing but for the first time in a generation we appear to have the resources to at least try and do that.
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