Ronald Koeman discussion

ijjysmith · August 2, 2017

Doolstar70 said:
Pace doesn't make much difference against a team sitting deep and defending. Need wing play plus craft and guile through the middle.

Yes. This. Exactly this. Finally glad somebody said it.

When we come up against teams who just sit there allowing no space, pace is utterly useless. And there will be loads of teams doing this to us next season.

Doolstar70 · August 2, 2017

ijjysmith said:
Yes. This. Exactly this. Finally glad somebody said it.

When we come up against teams who just sit there allowing no space, pace is utterly useless. And there will be loads of teams doing this to us next season.

Sandro Ramirez made a difference last week because he has real close control. The way to break them down is to make them commit defenders through passing and movement.

jceverton · August 2, 2017

MorgsGoat said:
Mine was the West Ham game, that was my tipping point.

Hull away on New Years Day - shambolic/walkeresque

gonetomorrow · August 3, 2017

ijjysmith said:
Yes. This. Exactly this. Finally glad somebody said it.

When we come up against teams who just sit there allowing no space, pace is utterly useless. And there will be loads of teams doing this to us next season.

If we can't break teams down we need to get our chaps to shoot accurately from distance and not blaze it over all the time.
It's not rocket science.

wainy · August 3, 2017

jceverton said:
Hull away on New Years Day - shambolic/walkeresque

Was clear after that game Martinez had lost the players. Probably the worst everton display of the last 10 years that I've witnessed.

riddick · August 3, 2017

Doolstar70 said:
Pace doesn't make much difference against a team sitting deep and defending. Need wing play plus craft and guile through the middle.

It will for at least 6 away matches a year tho.

jceverton · August 3, 2017

riddick said:
It will for at least 6 away matches a year tho.

Exactly, you need pace if you're going to be successful the same as you need tricky and creative players. At the minute we are short on both.

Mikey_Fitzgerald · August 3, 2017

Foot Long Hot Dog · August 3, 2017

a bell maul said:
Martinez totally lost my confidence after the home game vs Leicester in his second season. To me, he was a dead man walking after that hapless display.

Mine was Hull away on New Years day in his second season, the players barely spoke to each other and we were truly awful, it was obvious he'd lost the dressing room at that point. He should have been canned in the car park.