Ronald Koeman discussion

[Chimpy Glassman]

Joey straight yes or no, you rather than having the Bobby clown or Koeman?

 

[longers]

Joey straight yes or no, you rather than having the Bobby clown or Koeman?

How is he meant to answer yes or no to that question lol

 

[Thomasc]

He's not quite guilty of being the Dutch Moyes yet...at the moment I'm going with the Scottish Verdict of - Not Proven...for now.
Case adjourned until the end of October.

I think that is a very fair thing to do.

Similar to what I did with Martinez after his bad second season, I thought let's see how he does by the end of October November of his third before we start calling for his head if lessons had not been learnt.

He of course went on to be the biggest charlatan of a so called manager we have had since Mike Walker, so that was a painful experience.

The only difference though here, is that Koeman hasn't really done anything wrong yet, apart from improve us from where we were when he took over. A lot of jumping the gun based on an unbeaten pre-season (which seems a bit bizarre!)

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Joey straight yes or no, you rather than having the Bobby clown or Koeman?

I think most would say Koeman, because he'll most likely have us top half looking up, as opposed to bottom half looking down

That being said, neither of them finished Top 4 and neither of them made it to a Cup Final, so neither of them have eclipsed Sgt Major Moyes, much as it will annoy and frustrate some folk to contemplate

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

How is he meant to answer yes or no to that question lol

Touche

 

[eddy]

Just play Lookman Ronald .......... ffs

 

[Thuck ma Baws]

He took over when we had finished 11th on 47pts and in his first and only season got us 7th on 61pts and back in Europe. Since then we've played two competitive matches and won them both.

It's very good of people to be willing to give him until October before calling for him to be sacked.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I think most would say Koeman, because he'll most likely have us top half looking up, as opposed to bottom half looking down

That being said, neither of them finished Top 4 and neither of them made it to a Cup Final, so neither of them have eclipsed Sgt Major Moyes, much as it will annoy and frustrate some folk to contemplate

Also, neither of them have beaten Liverpool either

At least Moyes contrived to manage that on a few occasions

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

He took over when we had finished 11th on 47pts and in his first and only season got us 7th on 61pts and back in Europe. Since then we've played two competitive matches and won them both.

It's very good of people to be willing to give him until October before calling for him to be sacked.

Exceedingly generous

 

[orly]

How is he meant to answer yes or no to that question lol

lol

 

[evertonarntwe]

Also, neither of them have beaten Liverpool either

At least Moyes contrived to manage that on a few occasions

moyes did it what 3 times in 11 years? one of them against a roy hogson Liverpool. Koeman has only had 1 year

 

[Thomasc]

He took over when we had finished 11th on 47pts and in his first and only season got us 7th on 61pts and back in Europe. Since then we've played two competitive matches and won them both.

It's very good of people to be willing to give him until October before calling for him to be sacked.

I responded to @degsy for giving him time as some have already made their mind up now strangely, which is on the back of an unbeaten pre-season as well, which like I said is very bizarre.

For me he has done nothing wrong and should not even be getting questioned on results.

 

[hktoffee]

I think most would say Koeman, because he'll most likely have us top half looking up, as opposed to bottom half looking down

That being said, neither of them finished Top 4 and neither of them made it to a Cup Final, so neither of them have eclipsed Sgt Major Moyes, much as it will annoy and frustrate some folk to contemplate

It is ridiculous to say what can Koeman would do with less fund. First we don't know how many more players we can get before 31 August. He did say we spent about £7m. Secondly, some made it out like the previous regime has similiar budget as Moyes. The answer is no cos Moyes had little net spend while the fraud had £16m net per season. Moyes had done more because he got 4th and reached a cup final not semi.

 

[degsy]

I think that is a very fair thing to do.

Similar to what I did with Martinez after his bad second season, I thought let's see how he does by the end of October November of his third before we start calling for his head if lessons had not been learnt.

He of course went on to be the biggest charlatan of a so called manager we have had since Mike Walker, so that was a painful experience.

The only difference though here, is that Koeman hasn't really done anything wrong yet, apart from improve us from where we were when he took over. A lot of jumping the gun based on an unbeaten pre-season (which seems a bit bizarre!)

You'd more patience than me then...Christmas 2014 / New Year 2015, I was done with him.
Slightly different set of circumstances then and now.
There's only so much wait and see I / we(?) will take... I'm of a different mind to you - Results will make or break him.
but it's all a bit uninspiring at the moment.

 

[hktoffee]

I responded to @degsy for giving him time as some have already made their mind up now strangely, which is on the back of an unbeaten pre-season as well, which like I said is very bizarre.

For me he has done nothing wrong and should not even be getting questioned on results.

I bet some will call him out after 5 league games. Those who call him out could be those who wanted to give the clown the 4th season and shouting out load about the second year syndrome back in 2015.