Ronald Koeman discussion

[jceverton]

Martinez took a 6th place team and improved it by 9 points and one position then you see what happened in the next 2 seasons. Koeman took over a 12th place team and improved it by 17 points and 5 positions. And we are yet to know the outcome of the current season.

Yes but Moyes was pretty efficient about getting the most out of his resources whereas the opposite applies to Martinez's final season.

 

[bicycleheader]

We have replaced a manager who relegated a established premier league team with a manager who season on season bettered what pochetinno did with them. Let's not rewrite football, Martinez is bum aids, Koeman is the flu.

we will have to agree to disagree on the differing levels of not good enough of our ex and our hopefully soon to be ex

 

[ianefc]

we will have to agree to disagree on the differing levels of not good enough of our ex and our hopefully soon to be ex

You've lost patience too soon, way quicker than you did with el Coco. We'll breach 50 points this season again.

 

[hktoffee]

quote my post for what reason HK? why would getting 7th change anything im saying?

Getting 7th is the pragmatic expectation. To finish 7th in the league with this squad is mission accomplished mate.

 

[Tony Hibbert's 3rd leg]

Good job our defensive is solid

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

A total shambles that today, left on 75 minutes, absolutely dire

Terrible tactics, a complete failure to react to what was patently obvious, and that side simply hasn't got enough goals in it.

Oh and Klaasen - that's £24m flushed down the pan, he's gash

 

[bicycleheader]

You've lost patience too soon, way quicker than you did with el Coco. We'll breach 50 points this season again.

Im not losing patience nor changing any opinion due to this bad start. he will get us 7th I think and we will make a good shot at the Europa or a cup. i just dont like him at all and dont want him at all. as you were with RM, when you know you know.

he utterly bores me.

leaaaaaave!

 

[bicycleheader]

Getting 7th is the pragmatic expectation. To finish 7th in the league with this squad is mission accomplished mate.

sorry. i dont get your point.

but its ok

 

[ToffeeTim]

You've lost patience too soon, way quicker than you did with el Coco. We'll breach 50 points this season again.

If we only get 50 points then he needs the boot. 7th is the bare minimum again this year and better cup runs.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Unfortunately such is my impatience, that no manager is ever going to please me in the long term until they win us a trophy or CL.

Then I'm afraid your going to be very miserable for a very long time mate.

And what happens when they don't deliver on any given season? Are you going to want every manager sacked within a season should they fail to reach either of those targets?

 

[hktoffee]

Yes but Moyes was pretty efficient about getting the most out of his resources whereas the opposite applies to Martinez's final season.

Moyes reached his peak in 2013 with Everton.

Koeman maybe a Dutch Moyes but I think our squad has improved but now we have no proper striker to lead the line so getting to spend the Lukaku money isn't really mean anything with the Sky6 spenting s loads for many years adding on top of their better squads.

 

[bignev23]

Did we?!

According to BBC mate I was surprised, my point was it means nothing anyway. We were awful.

 

[jceverton]

You've lost patience too soon, way quicker than you did with el Coco. We'll breach 50 points this season again.

When you spend £200 million and turn the team into an unbalanced toothless mess losing faith quickly tends to happen.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Im not losing patience nor changing any opinion due to this bad start. he will get us 7th I think and we will make a good shot at the Europa or a cup. i just dont like him at all and dont want him at all. as you were with RM, when you know you know.

he utterly bores me.

leaaaaaave!

I've felt apathetic this year tbh. We don't excite me and I don't look forward to watching us. But it's nothing a couple of wins won't change. It's early days so we can clearly get back on track but longer it takes us to click then the chances of improving on last year become more remote.

 

[hktoffee]

Then I'm afraid your going to be very miserable for a very long time mate.

And what happens when they don't deliver on any given season? Are you going to want every manager sacked within a season should they fail to reach either of those targets?

The board let Koeman down by not delivering enough signings. Our bad start is partly due to that.