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Try telling that to a Valencia supporter.

Didnt fail...dearie me.

He messed up in the league Zat - I've said that many times.

He won the Copa - that can't be ignored.

Since then it's pretty clear he's taken on board what went wrong at both Benfica and Valencia and has learned from them.

As opposed to Martinez who has shown he can't adapt to anything.
 
It is if you buy local but overseas much more value.

pretty sure Pogba for £90m, Luiz for £32m, Slimani for £30m prove that that's also dubious now mate...

It definitely is a bit more value for money in the right circumstances (like unkowns such as Kante) but now every foreign club will charge more for Prem sides.
 

Whatever has happened off the pitch, Mr Koeman has definitely made us more resilient on the pitch without compromising good footballing principles. For that, I am very thankful.
 
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...s/koeman-wants-everton-fitter-faster-11865027

Koeman wants Everton fitter, faster, bigger and stronger - and here's his plan to achieve it
Blues boss admits physicality was a key target during club's summer recruitment drive

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Ronald Koeman instructs his squad during the Everton FC training session at Finch Farm on September 8, 2016 in Halewood, England. (Photo by Tony McArdle/Everton FC via Getty Images)
Ronald Koeman has revealed his plan for a fitter, stronger, more intense Everton – one which can deliver European qualification this season.

The Blues have made a promising start to life under their new manager, taking seven points from their first three games as well as securing comfortable progress in the League Cup.

The Koeman era may be in its infancy, but already there have been signs of the kind of football Everton will play under the Dutchman. Criticised for being too passive and defensively suspect under predecessor Roberto Martinez, the Toffees look more compact, better organised and have so far played with greater urgency, physicality and aggression.

Such qualities, Koeman says, played a key role in the club’s summer recruitment drive. Strength, athleticism, energy and stamina were attributes targeted by new director of football Steve Walsh.



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“Yes, they were the big aspects that we needed to get into the team,” Koeman said.

“Players like (Yannick) Bolasie, like (Enner) Valencia, (Idrissa) Gueye with the energy and the fitness, (Ashley) Williams with the leadership and experience in an important position after losing John Stones.

“And of course (when I came) we had only one goalkeeper, and OK (Maarten) Stekelenburg is doing well, he’s a really good goalkeeper. So we’re thinking about all these aspects, the physical side, the energy. I think the team has won a lot, compared to last season.”



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Koeman raised a few eyebrows when revealing after the opening day draw with Tottenham that Everton were only “70 per cent” ready for the new season. It was a thinly-veiled criticism of Martinez, as well as a nudge to his players that they needed to raise their level.

He’s happier now than he was then, but says that adding “intensity” to his side’s training regime has been another key focus at Finch Farm.

“I push them because the training intensity is different to what it was,” he said. “That is what we need – to train at a higher intensity than it was.

“Football is not just about the weekend, it’s about every day, improving and having that intensity. They are not long training sessions, but what we do, we do at 100% and real intensity.



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“If we do this, it makes it easier for us. If you are used to doing things at this intensity, then you can work easier. That’s what we like to do.”

He added: “I spoke to Williams, and our training sessions are not that different to what he did at Swansea. It’s not that we do better training sessions, it’s that we do different ones. More than one road leads to Rome!

“I think we have to train this way. OK, it needs time, and the new signings and players will need time to adjust. But we are doing OK at the moment.”

One marked difference between Koeman’s Everton and the one left behind by Martinez last season has been the level of pressing, particularly high up the field.



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Koeman has already expressed concerns about the ability of the likes of Kevin Mirallas and Gerard Deulofeu, in particular, to execute such a high-energy plan, but says the players are coming round to his way of thinking.

“We can improve,” he said. “Our strikers need to improve how we need to press.

“You can do pressing at 70 per cent, but it’s not pressing. If you press, you do it at 100 per cent.

“We can improve, and we need to improve. Lukaku, Ross, Deulofeu, Mirallas...it’s difficult, because most of the strikers don’t really have that quality, to press. Bolasie, yes. He has that quality.



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“But they have to learn, and it is showing. We have organised sessions and exercises to help them do it, and we will see what we can change in that sense.”

In terms of the long term, then, where is Koeman looking? Does he set targets for his side?

“It’s always difficult, because everything can happen in football,” he added. “You like to have a target, you have ambition, and I think ours is to fight for a European place for next season. I think that is realistic for us at the moment.”
 
After 2 seasons of hating football if nothing else Koeman has got me enjoying Everton again.
I echo your sentiments mate- I totally stopped watching Everton last season, and stopped listening to a word El Fraudo uttered even earlier.
With Koeman, I again feel confident that at the very least, the players he sends out on a weekend, represent us genuinely.

Martinez is now some other team's problem
 

I agree, but your sly digs are embarrassing, given that we are on 7 points from 9 and you are constantly sniping at Koeman, yet you were lauding Martinez for keeping a clean sheet away at the now relegated Cardiff. It's embarrassing.

He's a strange cookie our David, glad I'm not the only one who's noticed his thinly veiled stabs at Koeman. He set unrealistic expectations for the new manager from the moment Martinez was sacked so he already had an excuse for the inevitable attack whenever the first hiccup happened. He's waiting patiently, and as soon as the first thing goes wrong this season then that's it. EVERYTHING will be put up against Martinez's first season and then there we go, the very first Koeman plotter. He's already very subtly hinting at us returning to "hoofball", just in case we actually are successful, then at least he has "well I don't like the style of play" to fall back on. Imagine that, imagine caring about being right THAT much.
 
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As @davek stated, this is a koeman thread. Not a thread about the former manager who you slated from day 1 and yet appear to be hypocritical when chastising others for offering viewpoints on koeman which arent of the same opinion as your own.


It almost sounds like you and this DaveK character are criticising Koeman just for that exact petty reason.
 
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He's a strange cookie our David, glad I'm not the only one who's noticed his thinly veiled stabs at Koeman. He set unrealistic expectations for the new manager from the moment Martinez was sacked so he already had an excuse for the inevitable attack whenever the first hiccup happened. He's waiting patiently, and as soon as the first thing goes wrong this season then that's it. EVERYTHING will be put up against Martinez's first season and then there we go, the very first Koeman plotter. He's already very subtly hinting at us returning to "hoofball", just in case we actually are successful, then at least he has "well I don't like the style of play" to fall back on. Imagine that, imagine caring about being right THAT much.

Spot on, he becoming embarrassing
 

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