Ronald Koeman discussion

[royvernon39]

That said, I would sure have peak Moyes over Koeman any day of the week

Great post.

What I liked about DM was that he formed teams with the emphasis on team work and clear objectives for a group of technically limited players. But that was also his weakness as against LFC at Wemberley in that famous surrender as you point out. But there was a certain hard, determined logic in his thinking and it convinced the fans. He never won a trophy but he left the club in a far better place.

DM also had next to nothing in terms of money from Billy Liar whereas RK has had a cash mountain to spend as he sees fit. And who he has signed? Klaarsen, Cuco, Rooney, Gilfi - at a crazy price - and last season he went nuts trying to get Sissoko who nearly all of Geodieland despised as a non-trier.

RK still has time to get it right and may yet do so but after a season and a bit, the teacher's report is ' Must try harder. Can do better'.

 

[Blackwell Livermore]

It's a reality check - and the reality is that we were absolutely miles from top 4 and the gap is still big. There is no doubt that we are not playing well at the moment and the squad needs time to learn to play together better, but we are only going to get better from here.

I tend to not get too carried away when we go on a winning run, nor do I get too dejected when we are struggling as we are at the moment. The process of closing the gap to the top clubs has only just begun.

All well and good but are you prepared for a third with Koeman if this season ends like clownshoes' second?

 

[Bob Elstone]

Anyone who thinks Moyes is better than Koeman must be blind.

 

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

Moyes wasn't better than Koeman.

For most of Moyes' time at Everton, Man City and Spurs were mid-table mediocrities.

There are more "big" teams now.

 

[kenada_blue]

LOL

Think most people would accept Unsworth taking us down cos hes a BLUE.

I'm sure some would lol

 

[Prevenger17]

Moyes was way better than Koeman

 

[Furey1878]

Moyes circa 02-09 was way better than Koeman

Fixed

 

[Stuartisitc1878]

in fairness to Moyes he never had the backing Koeman has had at Everton but he did get it at United and managed to make a right pigs ear of it. Moyes was the right manager at the right time for. Koeman is better manager in general but i'm yet to be convinced he is the best fit for us at this moment in time.

 

[bicycleheader]

I'd prefer we go and get a really good manager so we didn't have to talk about who is better between Moyes and Koemoyes

 

[phil_t98]

Problem with Moyes is he never realy tried to win any of the big games. He would set up defensivly and hope for the best. I think people seem to forget this, with Martinez he went for the win every time. I remember we played Arsenal in that first season and were drawing with 10 mins to got and Martinez was bringing on strikers to try and win the game. I was amazed as we hadn't done anything like that under Moyes. Koeman has his faults but way better than Moyes in my opinion

 

[Timak]

in fairness to Moyes he never had the backing Koeman has had at Everton but he did get it at United and managed to make a right pigs ear of it. Moyes was the right manager at the right time for. Koeman is better manager in general but i'm yet to be convinced he is the best fit for us at this moment in time.

Disagree. Nothing in Koeman's career shows he can build a club up in the way Moyes did with us.

 

[hallamblue]

We need a manager with Moyes' organisational ability but Martinez' ambition. Mourinho is the best example of this, but obviously we aren't going to get him. We need an up and coming manager with those traits.

 

[matty1878]

We've got a manager you absolute gang of teds.

 

[MACCA75]

Problem with Moyes is he never realy tried to win any of the big games. He would set up defensivly and hope for the best. I think people seem to forget this, with Martinez he went for the win every time. I remember we played Arsenal in that first season and were drawing with 10 mins to got and Martinez was bringing on strikers to try and win the game. I was amazed as we hadn't done anything like that under Moyes. Koeman has his faults but way better than Moyes in my opinion

Then your memory is playing tricks on you. We didn't bring on a striker in that game, we brought Del on as a direct swap for Mirallas.

And perhaps you have forgotten the 4-0 games at Anfield or the way we played deep and clung on until the 90th minute against Chelsea a couple of times.

 

[orly]

We've got a manager you absolute gang of teds.

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