Daves mental.
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Daves mental.
I don't really like him. I want a new manager.
How do I go about this?
How do I go about this?
On my phone, so forgive the lack of banners, but.
*Martinez Out*
*Baines is 1 of us*
Martinez was that bad he made poor Bill ill.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
...as an attacking coach he is. We attacked with more potency than any Everton team since the Kanchelskis era team.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
...Baines one of you.
Tony Hibbert's 3rd leg
Banned as requested
I'm still a firm believer that unless a manager's first season is an utterly disaster you can't really judge him and his true plans until at least his second season. All this talk about 'inheriting squads' means nothing because the manger will want his own players for his own style, and importantly all other clubs are changing and this is a constant. You have to keep up with the competition.
I for one was extremely optimistic after Martinez's first season and he had most other people fooled too. But I can't stress the importance of a manger having his own squad to suit his tactics. I watched the spurs vs city game, and yes Guardiola had a few of his new additions available. But he has still inherited a squad where he has had to change their mentality and approach, and not everyone is going to adapt, hence why Hart was shipped off. Conversely, Poch has had time to build a very astute spurs team that is very much his own. Everyone knows their role.
No wonder the likes of Barkley are struggling, Koeman's high intense pressing and work rate is far from what Ross is used to. You'd think Cleverley and McCarthy would have adapted better but these players simply aren't good enough. I actually really liked our set up vs Spurs. I think a player like Deulofeu has the potential to play a pivotal role if his fitness levels improve.
That point against Spurs is starting to look like a very good one. Is it any surprise that Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs have played better than United and Chelsea? Once a manger has the players for the job, then you can scrutinise his efforts.
I for one was extremely optimistic after Martinez's first season and he had most other people fooled too. But I can't stress the importance of a manger having his own squad to suit his tactics. I watched the spurs vs city game, and yes Guardiola had a few of his new additions available. But he has still inherited a squad where he has had to change their mentality and approach, and not everyone is going to adapt, hence why Hart was shipped off. Conversely, Poch has had time to build a very astute spurs team that is very much his own. Everyone knows their role.
No wonder the likes of Barkley are struggling, Koeman's high intense pressing and work rate is far from what Ross is used to. You'd think Cleverley and McCarthy would have adapted better but these players simply aren't good enough. I actually really liked our set up vs Spurs. I think a player like Deulofeu has the potential to play a pivotal role if his fitness levels improve.
That point against Spurs is starting to look like a very good one. Is it any surprise that Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs have played better than United and Chelsea? Once a manger has the players for the job, then you can scrutinise his efforts.
Imagine how mad Dave would be if we lost 4-0 to them under Koeman.
Make a poll
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Please check with me for Blammo criteria
But now he is, ok, ok
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Lowste
Player Valuation: £30m
I think we all accept that we needed to tighten up defensively, it was for me what killed Martinez.
In Koeman he has come in an focused around being tight in defence and keeping it busy in midfield. In itself this is working and we do look more sound at the back. The problem being is we have lost that attacking threat we had, this has been evident in the last few games.
I think there are two challenges ahead
1. Koeman to get the balance right
2. Patience from the fan base giving him time to get it right
I would love to see the balance of attack and defend, as for me I don't think we have the worst squad in the world.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
Yeah, I reckon he'd actually acknowledge it.
Okay - well that we can agree on but small steps.
I don't think our play has in any way been 'bad'. We've looked very dangerous on the counter especially. It isn't as good as it was under Martinez's style when it worked (so three years ago and then sporadically for the last two seasons), but equally so it isn't as good as Southampton's play was under Koeman either...
Weird how, of the four games Baines has missed this season, we've failed to win three of them, losing two...
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