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Ronald Koeman discussion

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Dave please change your avartar back to a clemantine rather than `guy fawkes` ta

If Koeman was wearing brown brogues today how would everyone feel??
 
View attachment 30833 Makes you wonder


His Soton side finished 6th in a Season where leics won the league, Utd were cack, Chelsea finished mid table, Liverpool 8th. Last season was a total anomaly.

We sit in 6th after 11 games!!!!!!!!!most of which you would probably expect us to win. A few hard fixtures coming now. To say this after only 11 games is nothing short of ridiculous.

Chelsea were very good, it was the manner of our 'performance' that is the hardest to deal with. Just because Utd have been poor doesn't detract from that

He's doing better job than the other candidates!!!! That like comparing apples with oranges. Who are these candidates? Apart from De Boer. Please tell.

Our home form has vastly improved? Compared to what? We've played Spurs, stoke, boro, palace and West Ham. 11 points 8 goals 3 against. With the exception of Spurs, we should be winning the others. how can you come to the assumption that our home form has vastly improved after only 5 games. Let's review it after the next 5. Swansea, Utd,arsenal, Liverpool and Soton. You still think it will continue?

System? What system? Whatever the system you're talking about, you think Williams, Bolasie and Guaye suit it 'better'!!!!!!

You're Comical Ali and I claim my £10

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His Soton side finished 6th in a Season where leics won the league, Utd were cack, Chelsea finished mid table, Liverpool 8th. Last season was a total anomaly.

So the 7th place they got the season before meant nothing?

We sit in 6th after 11 games!!!!!!!!!most of which you would probably expect us to win. A few hard fixtures coming now. To say this after only 11 games is nothing short of ridiculous.

Every team plays every other twice. So that logic is irrelevant until the season finishes. Only 11 games? That's nearly a third of the season.

Chelsea were very good, it was the manner of our 'performance' that is the hardest to deal with. Just because Utd have been poor doesn't detract from that

Never said the performance was anything less than embarrassing nor that anything detracts from that The football has been poor for most of the season so far. Perspective is everything. We are currently above United who have a far superior squad and one of the world's best managers.

He's doing better job than the other candidates!!!! That like comparing apples with oranges. Who are these candidates? Apart from De Boer. Please tell.

I'd be more than happy to oblige. Emery iso struggling with PSG. Mourihno is struggling with United. Pellegrini in China. Tuchel with Dortmund in the league. All managers we were linked with, and who are currently under performing.

Our home form has vastly improved? Compared to what? We've played Spurs, stoke, boro, palace and West Ham. 11 points 8 goals 3 against. With the exception of Spurs, we should be winning the others. how can you come to the assumption that our home form has vastly improved after only 5 games.

Must have missed all of our home games last year then. Especially the ones where we got beat by West Ham and Stoke, and didn't beat any of the teams listed at home.

System? What system? Whatever the system you're talking about, you think Williams, Bolasie and Guaye suit it 'better'!!!!!!

In fact, have you watched any game at all? Steve Walsh's job is literally to bring in suitable players. Those 3 have been among the best in the team this season.

I'm struggling to understand your expectations?....

8th, scratch below the surface of our 1st 11 and we ain't got much quality. God help us if we lose Romelu for a period of time.

If anyone thinks we're not good enough to break into the top 6 then we've got the wrong Manager. By common opinion, we under performed last season and had a fraud as manager who couldn't set up a defence. This season, if the Manager is as good as everyone thinks, surely we should at least be challenging for top 5 or 6. That's what I expect anyway.

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I wouldn't worry about the vaults mate, I'm absolutely certain, that should we be 'successful' there will be much harsher vaults. Some of our 'fans' are desperate for him to fail, you can see it, despite him making a better start than Klopp and Pochettino, with a much worse starting point.

I'm pretty sure Dave wants success for us with whatever manager......he will be as delighted as any of us. However he quite obviously is going to WUM us all to death whilst the jury is out on Koeman, and will enjoy his I told you so if we become a crap zombie version of a Moyes team. As you enjoyed your I told you so moment with Bobby and sniped away at him from day one.

Who are you referring to as a 'fan' and think are desperate for Koeman to fail?
 

Theres not a single player in the squad that couldnt be replaced, we need better players than no marks from Southampton.
VVD would walk into that defence, as would Bertrand.

If Koeman can't sort out the defence we have, which is obviously the case, then he has to buy to sort it.
 
VVD would walk into that defence, as would Bertrand.

If Koeman can't sort out the defence we have, which is obviously the case, then he has to buy to sort it.

A keeper with hands would improve us, not playing Funes Mori would improve us, Baines being fit would improve us, signing players like VVD whos career highlight has been defending from the Dog and Duck in the SPL doesnt improve us.
 
What were your expectations of A new manager?

I honestly thought 5th (being optimistic) or 6th. A new manager comes in, especially one of Koemans reputation, gets the players fired up, more tactically astute. Improves defence. Guaye improves the Mid. One of Europes top strikers up top. He spent 25m on Bolasie (what a waste) Stoke, West Ham and Soton finished above us last year. Given the trouble at Old Toilet and Leics awful start. I thought Koeman would have us firing.
 
A keeper with hands would improve us, not playing Funes Mori would improve us, Baines being fit would improve us, signing players like VVD whos career highlight has been defending from the Dog and Duck in the SPL doesnt improve us.
VVD - established Dutch international.

Funes Mori this season in a two man CD: played four, won three, drew one.

Williams and Mori should be left in to blend until we can get Jagielka sold and a new CB in.
 

Honestly don't think even he knows what he want us to play. Stated he wanted a high energy midfield, went heavily for Sissoko. Said he wanted 3 keepers repeatedly, sticks with 2. Wants a high pressing team, had Barkley and Lukaku.

So confused and annoyed this season so far..
 
VVD - established Dutch international.

Funes Mori this season in a two man CD: played four, won three, drew one.

Williams and Mori should be left in to blend until we can get Jagielka sold and a new CB in.

VVD only got a call up when that yard dog from Villa retired.

We concede about 20 goals everytime Mori plays, hes utterly grim.
 

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