Ronald Koeman discussion

[Prevenger17]

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I've just figured it out. How do you lads always seem to know?

 

[tommye]

Yeah...a few of us were talking with him on Twitter. He'll be back. Talked to Sagey for a second too.

@Del did some good work today

Del is banned mate.

 

[tommye]

What? What's his name now?

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I've just figured it out. How do you lads always seem to know?

Lads?

 

[ilikecheese]

Lads?

Koeman and stuff...

 

[tommye]

*shakes head and mutters under breath

 

[Khalekan]

We really miss Besic. No way he would have put in some of the disgraceful turns that Barry Barkley and Cleverley have put in recently.

Oh yes he is well capable of it, Dom.

I saw it myself in the Arsenal home game last season.

Anyone whom thinks Besic is the answer doesn't undestand the question

 

[Khalekan]

We really miss Besic. No way he would have put in some of the disgraceful turns that Barry Barkley and Cleverley have put in recently.

Oh yes he is well capable of it, Dom.

I saw it myself in the Arsenal home game last season.

Anyone whom thinks Besic is the answer doesn't undestand the question

 

[Groucho]

What some refuse to recognise is that the record points were built on adding an effective attacking game to a solid defence that still remembered the drills and rigour of Moyes. (That allowed him to hit the ground running.)The longer Martinez worked with the players the more the ability to defend was coached out of the defence during that first year and we fell away towards the end of the season and got worse from then on. ( At times towards the end he could barely walk.....and neither could the team)

It has crossed my mind that, while Martinez benefited from Moyes' defensive discipline for a season, perhaps Koeman will suffer for a season while he shakes off the squad's lack of discipline?


Rome wasn't rebuilt in a day and that....

 

[silent bob]

It has crossed my mind that, while Martinez benefited from Moyes' defensive discipline for a season, perhaps Koeman will suffer for a season while he shakes off the squad's lack of discipline?


Rome wasn't rebuilt in a day and that....

Finally, a glimmer of sanity amongst the knee jerking and bed wetting.

 

[ianefc]

What some refuse to recognise is that the record points were built on adding an effective attacking game to a solid defence that still remembered the drills and rigour of Moyes. (That allowed him to hit the ground running.)The longer Martinez worked with the players the more the ability to defend was coached out of the defence during that first year and we fell away towards the end of the season and got worse from then on. ( At times towards the end he could barely walk.....and neither could the team)

I find it funny how some people refuse to recognise that many of the problems Koeman is facing is undoing the damage inflicted on the defensive qualities and fitness of the team by Martinez whilst not recognising that much of the early success of Martinez was due to the solid work Moyes had done with the defence.

Given time I think Koeman will redress the balance and we will have a defensively solid team that is dangerous and entertaining in attack. ( that's just waiting to be vaulted at some point) and as for Pochettino he didn't hit the ground running at Spurs...to begin with a lot of the players struggled with the style he wanted to play and the fans were unsure he was as good as he has turned out to be for them..... Which sounds familiar to what some seem to think about Koeman at the moment.

It has crossed my mind that, while Martinez benefited from Moyes' defensive discipline for a season, perhaps Koeman will suffer for a season while he shakes off the squad's lack of discipline?


Rome wasn't rebuilt in a day and that....

Finally, a glimmer of sanity amongst the knee jerking and bed wetting.

Agreed.

 

[arminisgod]

It has crossed my mind that, while Martinez benefited from Moyes' defensive discipline for a season, perhaps Koeman will suffer for a season while he shakes off the squad's lack of discipline?


Rome wasn't rebuilt in a day and that....

Or maybe Martinez wasn't that bad and koeman isn't that good?

 

[D410]

Starting to get the feeling that Ronny is speaking like someone who knows he,s been duped and is firewalling himself for his next job.

Shame really, if he had been given the money he was prommissed....... but this is everton, taking everyone for a ride, every season.

 

[ianefc]

Or maybe Martinez wasn't that bad and koeman isn't that good?

Their league records would suggest that that isn't likely to be the problem.

 

[Jags..class]

Or maybe Martinez wasn't that bad and koeman isn't that good?

Maybe the players are not good enough. Koeman needs more then 11 games to sort out his team.

 

[polish]

"Of course you miss that players because the reason why we signed Gana was because of his energy, his aggression in the midfield and winning second balls and of course you miss that player," Koeman said.

"We need more of those players because it is not always about qualities, it is about mentality and everything without the ball."

Koeman, who will be without Gueye in January due to the Africa Cup of Nations, added: "We need to learn and we need to change a lot of things when we don't have the ball, how is our transition? How are we coming back it? Is it sprinting or is it at 80%? There was a big difference between Chelsea and Everton today."

110% truth in those words. Reading between the lines, Ronald is looking for a clearout in the summer. Hopefully.