Ronald Koeman discussion

[davek]

His interviews are badly moyes, his tactics are badly moyes, his signings are badly moyes.

I will lose it with him quite soon if he doesn't recognise the size of the job here. No excuses for yesterday.

The thing of it is this: he's made a rod for his own back here. He's been grandstanding over sorting a defence out when he really should have just been winding his neck in and doing the hours on the pitches at FF with them making it a reality rather than a hollow boast.

That type of hubris got exactly what it deserved last night. He needs to shut his grid and knuckle down - on that score, it might be an idea to knock off his early darts from FF to his golf sessions. I know the club only pay him £6m a year like and so can't expect a lot of his time, but hopefully he'll stretch to it

 

[ianefc]

His interviews are badly moyes, his tactics are badly moyes, his signings are badly moyes.

I will lose it with him quite soon if he doesn't recognise the size of the job here. No excuses for yesterday.

I'll tweet him now to let him know you're about to lose it with him. That'll be the kick up the arse he needs

 

[ToffeeTim]

I'll tweet him now to let him know you're about to lose it with him. That'll be the kick up the arse he needs

He's probably on holiday

 

[ToffeeTim]

He's better than Moyes.

We got our arse handed to us yesterday by a better team. He got his tactics wrong by trying to match Chelsea man for man, it happens.

That's not an excuse for the two mistakes from Barry and Stek that led to their openers, or the disgraceful display by the rest of the team as well.

He'll be fuming.

But I don't think he'll care if knee-jerk Tim who thinks signing players is as simple as pressing a button on a PS4 controller has fumed with him cos we're sixth after 11 games...

It's how we react to the setback. We reacted woefully to our first loss of the season at Norwich. We need a far better response.

I feel for him in that he's not been given good players. But those at his disposal are not so useless that they can't compete. Recalling jagielka and the goalkeeper was disgraceful. Neither should be back for the foreseeable.

I accept losing. I accept Chelsea are very good. I do not accept humiliation.

 

[toffee matt]

 

[ianefc]

He's probably on holiday

I doubt it mate, 4 weeks ago Gareth Barry said he was fuming because a team were losing a game of head tennis too heavily, that smacks of a professional wanting nothing but the best, yesterday was atrocious (although Chelsea were stunning) he'll be livid, I expect bollockings and droppings.

But I now understand that these two weeks are gonna be full of sly digs by the same posters over and over, so maybe someone needs to support him a bit?

Like I said last night was terrible but we are on 18 points from 11 games with a positive goal difference despite an utter bumming last night. The previous 11 league games this squad entered into only managed 9 points, 6 of which were V a relegated Norwich and a Bournemouth side who'd been on the beach for weeks prior.

Rome wasn't built in a day as they say.

This defeat will bring out those who love the negativity, those who revel in it. Sorry state.

 

[ianefc]

Not a phenomenal in sight and a chance to be on 21 points from 12 games.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I doubt it mate, 4 weeks ago Gareth Barry said he was fuming because a team were losing a game of head tennis too heavily, that smacks of a professional wanting nothing but the best, yesterday was atrocious (although Chelsea were stunning) he'll be livid, I expect bollockings and droppings.

But I now understand that these two weeks are gonna be full of sly digs by the same posters over and over, so maybe someone needs to support him a bit?

Like I said last night was terrible but we are on 18 points from 11 games with a positive goal difference despite an utter bumming last night. The previous 11 league games this squad entered into only managed 9 points, 6 of which were V a relegated Norwich and a Bournemouth side who'd been on the beach for weeks prior.

Rome wasn't built in a day as they say.

This defeat will bring out those who love the negativity, those who revel in it. Sorry state.

Any manager who sees us thrashed in that manner will be subject to my ire for a day or two. I've no allegiance to any manager.

I want him to make snap decisions from it. I want ruthlessness. Too often this rubbish is swept under the carpet as one of them.

 

[ianefc]

Any manager who sees us thrashed in that manner will be subject to my ire for a day or two. I've no allegiance to any manager.

I want him to make snap decisions from it. I want ruthlessness. Too often this rubbish is swept under the carpet as one of them.

For example?

 

[ToffeeTim]

For example?

Not be so negative.
Get some fire in their bellies
Remove stek jags funes clev and Mirallas from the first team.
Basically get on with the clear out
Demand that there is never a repeat.

 

[f.t.r.s]

Far too negative approach to big games,
what kind of message does it send to the players?? 'right lads we've just won last game out, but were playing a better side so we're gonna defend all game and try and nick something'

Moyes got hammered for that kind of attitude

 

[ianefc]

Not be so negative.
Get some fire in their bellies
Remove stek jags funes clev and Mirallas from the first team.
Basically get on with the clear out
Demand that there is never a repeat.

Sorry I meant some examples of when Koeman has swept things like yesterday under the carpet.

 

[Toffeelover]

Not be so negative.
Get some fire in their bellies
Remove stek jags funes clev and Mirallas from the first team.
Basically get on with the clear out
Demand that there is never a repeat.

Personally I would also try and find some way to dock half their wages for this week!

 

[davek]

...yep, including management.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Sorry I meant some examples of when Koeman has swept things like yesterday under the carpet.

I didn't say he would. I just stated I hoped he wouldn't because this club likes to sweep things under the carpet.

And then I said what action I thought should be taken.