Ronald Koeman discussion

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I doubt it mate, 4 weeks ago Gareth Barry said he was fuming because a team were losing a game of head tennis too heavily, that smacks of a professional wanting nothing but the best, yesterday was atrocious (although Chelsea were stunning) he'll be livid, I expect bollockings and droppings.

But I now understand that these two weeks are gonna be full of sly digs by the same posters over and over, so maybe someone needs to support him a bit?

Like I said last night was terrible but we are on 18 points from 11 games with a positive goal difference despite an utter bumming last night. The previous 11 league games this squad entered into only managed 9 points, 6 of which were V a relegated Norwich and a Bournemouth side who'd been on the beach for weeks prior.

Rome wasn't built in a day as they say.

This defeat will bring out those who love the negativity, those who revel in it. Sorry state.

5 points from the last 18.

1 win in the last 7 games.

This team are going backward at a rate of knots. And if this manager persists in underlining some fallacy that he's sorted the defence out then the slide will continue.
 

5 points from the last 18.

1 win in the last 7 games.

This team are going backward at a rate of knots. And if this manager persists in underlining some fallacy that he's sorted the defence out then the slide will continue.
I remember a time I quoted our recent form to you and you were having none of it, can you explain why I should acknowledge your point?
 
I doubt it mate, 4 weeks ago Gareth Barry said he was fuming because a team were losing a game of head tennis too heavily, that smacks of a professional wanting nothing but the best, yesterday was atrocious (although Chelsea were stunning) he'll be livid, I expect bollockings and droppings.

But I now understand that these two weeks are gonna be full of sly digs by the same posters over and over, so maybe someone needs to support him a bit?

Like I said last night was terrible but we are on 18 points from 11 games with a positive goal difference despite an utter bumming last night. The previous 11 league games this squad entered into only managed 9 points, 6 of which were V a relegated Norwich and a Bournemouth side who'd been on the beach for weeks prior.

Rome was built in a day as they say.

This defeat will bring out those who love the negativity, those who revel in it. Sorry state.

I think it's the same people who wanted us to actually lose games so Martinez could get sacked. We're at this stage again ALREADY, which is incredible. Nobody argued that performances have been dire, but we're not flirting with the bottom of the table like we did the last two seasons. People love the satisfaction of being right, and so will revel in it when in instances such as yesterday, to the point where instead of looking at the bigger picture they'll just go "Told you so".

Genuinely feel some would like us to go through 5 or 6 mangers in 3 years. We're not entitled to anything, we have to earn the right to challenge. Imagine not thinking this squad needs at least 100 million net to challenge. It's filled with aged players past their prime, rejects from other teams and potential that has showed no signs of being filled in two seasons.

Koeman was let down by our transfers and is being let down by the players. It's not his squad, and the addition of a handful of players isn't going to change that. I can't see how our expectations were suddenly raised by bottling a potential 4th place finish and then being saved from potential relegation by the goals of our striker the next two seasons. Or how a billionaire owner suddenly means that anyone should be leading a mediocre squad to challenging more than a European place, with nothing of a net spend and 11 games into a season.

Some laughed at Klopp when the RS had shockers last year, like away to Watford 3 nil, in the defence that it was largely ''Brendans Squad". We laughed when some put Klopp under pressure. The expectation to challenge was in his second season, not his first. They finished 8th last season. Look the turn around.

So take a hard look and relax, be patient for this season. Otherwise we will never have the required patience and realism it takes before we can challenge, and we'll be stuck in mid table mediocrity.
 
I think it's the same people who wanted us to actually lose games so Martinez could get sacked. We're at this stage again ALREADY, which is incredible. Nobody argued that performances have been dire, but we're not flirting with the bottom of the table like we did the last two seasons. People love the satisfaction of being right, and so will revel in it when in instances such as yesterday, to the point where instead of looking at the bigger picture they'll just go "Told you so".

Genuinely feel some would like us to go through 5 or 6 mangers in 3 years. We're not entitled to anything, we have to earn the right to challenge. Imagine not thinking this squad needs at least 100 million net to challenge. It's filled with aged players past their prime, rejects from other teams and potential that has showed no signs of being filled in two seasons.

Koeman was let down by our transfers and is being let down by the players. It's not his squad, and the addition of a handful of players isn't going to change that. I can't see how our expectations were suddenly raised by bottling a potential 4th place finish and then being saved from potential relegation by the goals of our striker the next two seasons. Or how a billionaire owner suddenly means that anyone should be leading a mediocre squad to challenging more than a European place, with nothing of a net spend and 11 games into a season.

Some laughed at Klopp when the RS had shockers last year, like away to Watford 3 nil, in the defence that it was largely ''Brendans Squad". We laughed when some put Klopp under pressure. The expectation to challenge was in his second season, not his first. They finished 8th last season. Look the turn around.

So take a hard look and relax, be patient for this season. Otherwise we will never have the required patience and realism it takes before we can challenge, and we'll be stuck in mid table mediocrity.

I wanted martinez out for his mediocre rubbish. By next season we need to have shown drastic improvement. Patience is fine but it's a cop out after a while
 

Seeing it first hand from Stamford Bridge, Koeman and the players got it wrong but Chelsea are in full flight.

Koeman should never have tried to go 3-4-3 or 5-3-2, changing our formation played straight into Chelsea's hands.

The back 3 was confused by the movement of Costa, Hazard and Pedro but the complete lack of cover for Oviedo and Coleman, who both have been horrid this season, was the damage was done.

Koeman bringing off Oviedo for Mirallas was idiotic and pointless because Kev provides no cover for Fumes Mori who was put left back.

We needed to stop the width of Chelsea and we had to many offensive players on the pitch. Against City, we had a compact midfield plus Gueye and shedloads of luck.

Koeman will learn from that but I was encouraged to see our manager actually try to counter Chelsea at their own game but the players couldn't produce or effect the game.

Playerwise, they all did nothing which I believe lead to Koeman's comments.

Our squad to ageing, slow and mediocre which lead to our current state of affairs.

We need 5-6 first team players in but for now we have to realistically start to remove from our starting XI:
Jagelka, Oviedo, Coleman, Cleverly and Barry.

I include Barry because without someone else doing all the legwork, he is a yellow card on legs. He tried and tried but he isn't first team for Everton anymore.

We cannot have players who don't offer nothing but a pass back, mistake or no real pace to effect the game whatsoever.

They need to earn their place and in the 11 games we have played, they have proved that we need better.
 

Imagine inheriting such an utterly embarrassing, weak-minded, gutless gang of complete s***houses
The long and short of it really Mike. When was the last time, when we were under the cosh, did one of our so called "top players" take the game by the scruff of the neck and drag us through?. Rare as hens teeth.
 
This is a case in point in how Koeman needs to be a bit more diplomatic.

He said "It wouldn't be difficult to improve our defence after last season" then he goes out two days later and suffers the heaviest defeat in the last decade.

Hopefully someone is teaching him some PR skills.
...yep, including management.
Sort of covered in the 'every aspect'
 
You two should just bang and get it out your systems. Shall I book a room?
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