Ronald Koeman discussion

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Finishing 7th in this league is nothing to sniff at, the team above us have spent ludicrous money building teams over long periods of time. Sign some players in January, potentially qualify for Europa League. Thats a great debut season, hopefully we can push on and build on the squad and the club - then play champions league football in our new stadium on the docks!
 
League position is determined by points , points are gained by winning or drawing. Therefore the higher up the table you finish the less times you've been defeated. Or put simply the higher up the table we finish the more times I walk out of the ground happy. The lower down the table we finish the more times I walk out the ground with a gob tripping me. It really is that simple . It's not rocket science, and it's not irrelevant. It's the whole point of competing in a league.
 

No mate. 7th is still 7th. And it's still nowhere.

Your a weird one davek ... so 7th is 7th.. ok... that's fair enough...

Yet you constantly argue that el fraudo was better than Moyes because he got 72 points in a season... (5th)

Even tho Moyes got 4th and a number of 5th and 6th place finishes?

And he done this with no net spend...

You literally would argue with your shadow
 
Finishing 7th in this league is nothing to sniff at, the team above us have spent ludicrous money building teams over long periods of time. Sign some players in January, potentially qualify for Europa League. Thats a great debut season, hopefully we can push on and build on the squad and the club - then play champions league football in our new stadium on the docks!

Excellent realistic post with achievable and fair goals...
 

Your a weird one davek ... so 7th is 7th.. ok... that's fair enough...

Yet you constantly argue that el boss man was better than Moyes because he got 72 points in a season... (5th)

Even tho Moyes got 4th and a number of 5th and 6th place finishes?

And he done this with no net spend...

You literally would argue with your shadow
You answered your own question right at that point.
 
Massive statement that is dave. Nor I cannot see Koeman would get us 11th-13th two seasons in a row.
No, I dont think he would either. I think he knows what side his bread is buttered on and will do enough to have supporters pacified, though not enthused, thrilled and dreaming of great football and success - which takes a manager who has a vision and acts boldly in every game. That came off for Roberto in one season and failed in two others. C'est la vie.

He's a steady as you go boss.
 
No, I dont think he would either. I think he knows what side his bread is buttered on and will do enough to have supporters pacified, though not enthused, thrilled and dreaming of great football and success - which takes a manager who has a vision and acts boldly in every game. That came off for Roberto in one season and failed in two others. C'est la vie.

He's a steady as you go boss.

I really don't mind direct football as long as we win games. Winning games mean it is great football.
 
Moyes got 4th X 1, 5th x 2, 6th X 2, 7th X 3. He is superior to the previous manager.

Big Joe won the FA Cup. Another greater achievement don't you agree?
What you possibly mean to say is that Moyes was here almost four times as long as Martinez and had the time to get decent positions in the league (as well as nearly relegating us with our worst points total for 50 years in one season). But Moyes is not the coach Martinez is. Martinez is a great attacking coach whereas Moyes is a bang average coach in all aspects of the game. Do you think one of the best international outfits in the world would ever employ Moyes? They did Martinez, and therein essentially lies the difference: Martinez is a thinker and a strategist; Moyes was just a dinosaur Sgt Major...an analogue manager in a digital world, as they say.
 

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