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paulbefc
Player Valuation: £60m
Who said they were all thugs? Do you have a statistic that suggests more players get their legs broken in that league because of the overly aggressive nature of the players in the league or something? If he was to, God forbid, break his leg when out on loan then that's life. He's just as likely to do that in the premier league or in the lower age groups/ressies as far as I'm concerned.
It's clear as day that "gradually more minutes" is not what he needs. He's not ready for Everton yet. He needs full 90s, now. His development has stalled and 5 and 10 minute appearances here and there won't change that. Why bother throwing him in at the deep end and not give him enough time because he's not ready yet? I believe he needs to be at the heart of a team with genuine responsibility to kick him into gear. No better place to do that than the chamionship, for me.
Don't want to go over old ground really, I think I've discussed it in this very thread - but there's a type of player in the lower divisions who see a talented up and coming player and put the studs to them early in the game to discourage them as they lack the talent to cope with them on skill alone, and that can easily lead to injury.
The other aspect of this is the impression it gives Ross - no confidence in his ability to perform at a higher level, yet we'd all call him Judas if he decided to leave in a few years for a big club.
But as I say I'm in two minds over it. I think Moyes has badly mismanaged him but what's done is done.
paulbefc
Player Valuation: £60m
Well that's a myth, surely. Unfounded at best and really not something worth worrying about unless this happens to every good player who goes on loan to the Championship.
The Championship would be a big step up from where he is now, that's for sure. The whole point is he's making pretty glaring errors at times that will be punished in the prem and we can't afford that. In the championship, such errors are less likely to be punished so he won't be dropped for them and the fact that the championship club are loaning him without the prospect of keeping him gives them the incentive to get as much playing time out of him as possible as he is a very talented player.
How is it a myth? It happens at every level of the game! If I were playing a five a side on the field and one lad was tearing up the place, I'd give him a kick to slow him down. The phrase "bullied out of the game" exists for a reason. Messi gets kicked to bits every game but he's learnt coping tactics to avoid and gain the free kick early, but if you put him in the Championship for a season he'd be lucky to come out of the first 10 games without a serious knock. It's the nature of the beast.
I'm convinced Barkley is a once in a generation talent, and if three points are up for grabs in a competitive game in the Championship and he's running the midfield you can bet any money you want that some donkey will put his studs through him.
It's about risk and reward. There's two ways of looking at the Barkley situation, but sending him out on loan isn't the no brainer solution people think it is.
steken1
Player Valuation: £70m
It's been a long time since a broken leg ended a career, especially when the owner of said leg is only 18.
Also, I don't understand the misconception that anything below the PL is full of yard dogs waiting to boot lumps out of anyone half decent? It's mostly just lads who aren't quite good enough for the top sides. Some decent football and footballers in the Championship.
The games are a lot closer to the PL than either reserve or under 21's so if he's not playing for us it makes sense. The physical demands in terms of number of sprints, distance covered, leaps and everything else are the next best thing too. At 18/19 egtting your fitness levels to this point is important.
tim cahill
Player Valuation: £50m
Sorry mate, but i think you're talking rubbish.
If the likes of Osman can 'survive' the championship then i don't see why Barkley couldn't. If he can't learn to cope with the demands of playing in a physical league then he'll never be much use to us anyway.
What's the alternative?... Wrap him up in cotton wool forever in case he gets injured? Leave him on the bench for the next 3 years?
Barkley has already broken his leg twice and he hasn't been near lower league football.One break happened during an international game.It can happen anywhere anytime.
In fact I would suggest that most young players now are produced from lower league clubs or are sent to lower league clubs on loan by premiership clubs.There is nothing to suggest that a player is more likely to break a leg in one division more than another.
In fact I would suggest that most young players now are produced from lower league clubs or are sent to lower league clubs on loan by premiership clubs.There is nothing to suggest that a player is more likely to break a leg in one division more than another.
If we're meant to be sending duffy, barkley and vellios out on loan (and I approve of those plans) then we'd better hurry up like. At the moment we've got nobody out on loan do we?
Jags..class
Player Valuation: £70m
Is Barkley deffo leaving then?
paulbefc
Player Valuation: £60m
Then, by that logic, Barkley should never excel at any level, just in case his legs get snapped because that happens "at every level of the game".
I don't know if you're genuinely misinterpreting what I'm saying or just on a wind up. Either way, cba responding to this again.
If he breaks that same leg in the same place again he will never be the same player again.
paulbefc
Player Valuation: £60m
Not on a wind up at all. You said it happens at every level of the game, so it'll happen in the prem as well, by that logic. If it's as bad at all levels, what's the problem with the championship? Either way, if Barkley is really a great, he'll do well anyway. Doesn't stop Messi does it?
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