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Ross Barkley

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how much does my praise increase his price by?

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Martinez doesn't half exaggerate and go over the top about Ross.

Saying he will become the greatest England player of all time, he needs to calm down and stop hyping him up so much.

It's almost like knows he's going and the more he hypes him the more money he thinks we will get for him.

Must be about the money, as the evidence of what he does on the pitch just doesn't reflect anything like what Roberto says about him.
 

Martinez doesn't half exaggerate and go over the top about Ross.

Saying he will become the greatest England player of all time, he needs to calm down and stop hyping him up so much.

It's almost like knows he's going and the more he hypes him the more money he thinks we will get for him.
I don't think that's exaggerating at all, to be honest. He watches him every day in training and is in the best possible position to form an opinion on him. I'm quite confident that Barkley will be in with a good shout of Ballon d'Or at some point in his career. The last Englishman to win that was Michael Owen, and I think we'd all agree that Barkley has the potential to far succeed Owen's career.
 
I don't think that's exaggerating at all, to be honest. He watches him every day in training and is in the best possible position to form an opinion on him. I'm quite confident that Barkley will be in with a good shout of Ballon d'Or at some point in his career. The last Englishman to win that was Michael Owen, and I think we'd all agree that Barkley has the potential to far succeed Owen's career.
Agree, hes got absolute everything to his game, just needs to mature abit and polish a few areas off
 
It's more a hypocritical thing for me, he says this whilst moving him out of his best position to accomodate other players.

Would Toure, silva, hazard, Fabregas etc. Be ushered out of their best position for other players
Toure switches between CM and the #10 role as does Fabregas. Silva regularly switches from the wings to CAM. Hazard is almost always played at LW under Mourinho but he has occasionally played central for both club and country.

So yes, they all have played in more than one position on the pitch depending on the needs of the team such as injuries as they are all versatile players.
 
Toure switches between CM and the #10 role as does Fabregas. Silva regularly switches from the wings to CAM. Hazard is almost always played at LW under Mourinho but he has occasionally played central for both club and country.

So yes, they all have played in more than one position on the pitch depending on the needs of the team such as injuries as they are all versatile players.

Plus those players are all the finished package now so less likely to be moved. Fabregas played up front for Barcelona at times.

Were they moved early on in their careers is the comparitive question that should be asked.
 
Toure switches between CM and the #10 role as does Fabregas. Silva regularly switches from the wings to CAM. Hazard is almost always played at LW under Mourinho but he has occasionally played central for both club and country.

So yes, they all have played in more than one position on the pitch depending on the needs of the team such as injuries as they are all versatile players.

All those players are capable of playing in those positions, your argument is the same as saying mirallas is played out of position when he moves from LM to RM when in fact he can ply both positions. Barkley is a CAM and only that, maybe one day he could play deeper but he's not a winger by any stretch.

The way martinez is defended for this is laughable, the same people lambasted moyes for playing players out of position yet cuz dat bobby got uz der 5th playce and plays the ball on the ground he can't be criticised.
 

All those players are capable of playing in those positions, your argument is the same as saying mirallas is played out of position when he moves from LM to RM when in fact he can ply both positions. Barkley is a CAM and only that, maybe one day he could play deeper but he's not a winger by any stretch.

The way martinez is defended for this is laughable, the same people lambasted moyes for playing players out of position yet cuz dat bobby got uz der 5th playce and plays the ball on the ground he can't be criticised.
Iirc Barkley has played 4 games out of the CAM position for Martinez, Arsenal at home last season where he played as LM as Osman went off injured, Crystal Palace at home he was CM because McCarthy was feeling his thigh muscles, and the last two games as LW as we have limited wingers due to injury. That is out of ~ 30 games he's started for him.

If Martinez makes a habit out of playing him on the wings for no discernable reason, like Wenger does with Ozil for example, I 'll be right up there complaining with you. But in each of the previous cases there has been a clear reason for the switch - injuries.
 
If Martinez makes a habit out of playing him on the wings for no discernable reason, like Wenger does with Ozil for example, I 'll be right up there complaining with you. But in each of the previous cases there has been a clear reason for the switch - injuries.
He doesn't play as an orthodox winger when he is put on the left either in my opinion. Especially with the width that Baines provides he is much more likely to cut inside than beat a man and cross it in to the box.

He's still much more effective playing centrally but I see no reason why he can't add two or three positions to his CV provided it isn't to the detriment to both the team and his own development.
 
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