Lowste
Player Valuation: £30m
Thankfully the lunatics don't run the asylum
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Thankfully the lunatics don't run the asylum
No, thankfully I have more than last season to base a judgement on.
I personally wouldnt sell him at any price.
stamullenblue
Player Valuation: £25m
Ross just needs a rest - he will be back better and stronger next year . He also needs us to support him and get of his back !
Zidane had his fair share of incidents and I wouldn't bat an eyelid if Ross started taking a few swings...he's going to have to if he doesn't want to get the shyt kicked out of him every game.
Lowste
Player Valuation: £30m
Little lost as you said you would sell him for anything over 6.5ml
Agree though in not selling, potentially we have a gem on our hands. The problem I have is people appear to want the finished article now, instead of being patient.
Don't get me wrong, he may not be the gem I think he could be, but let's afford him the time to prove people right or wrong
As a club we have potentially 5 or 6 under 24's who could go on to do great things with us.
Or (more likely) fetch us in fantastic transfer fees
The future could be bright
mrb85
Player Valuation: £35m
You sure?
Lowste
Player Valuation: £30m
Good call
johnnydawg68
Chairperson, People's Front of Saint Domingo
Interesting article on Barkley. I agree with a lot of this.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ey-for-ross-barkleys-development-with-everton
Positional Consistency Key for Ross Barkley's Development with Everton
Injury problems, poor form and impatience from his own fanbase conspired to make the 2014/15 season a miserable one for Ross Barkley.
After bursting onto the scene the previous campaign under the bold tutelage of new Everton manager Roberto Martinez, big things were expected of the midfielder in his second full season in the Toffees first team. But the England international has endured a regression in recent months.
To deny his talent on the back of one turbulent spell would be an improvident measure, for Barkley still has fearsome, frightening potential. However, to realise it fully, he needs to conquer all the aforementioned issues that have hindered him over the past 12 months and a few more to boot.
The hope among those of a blue persuasion is that a summer of recuperation will allow their midfielder to regain his swagger again; the end of an awful season for the team will hopefully see the supporters return with a much more understanding mindset in August, too. But Barkley also needs some positional consistency to be implemented from his manager.
In addition to the clutch of aforementioned factors, one of the main detriments to Barkley last season was the manner in which he was shifted around the Everton side.
He’s played in an orthodox No. 10 role primarily, but with the Catalan manager searching for a formula during some testing times, the England international was deployed on the right flank and left flank too. None of these positions suited Barkley's unique set of qualities, and some moribund performances prompted a severe downturn in confidence.
Martinez has made it abundantly clear that his primary target this summer is a creative, intricate midfielder, per Phil Kirkbride of the Liverpool Echo, something that would suggest the Spaniard, despite regularly picking Barkley in that spot this season, doesn’t see the 21-year-old as a key creative fulcrum.
For the many qualities Barkley has, innovative traits, which are vital for someone operating in this role, have been scarce in the relative infancy of his football career. During his time in the team, assists have been a rarity, and at the end of those trademark surges, his decision-making is erratic.
It’s something Bleacher Report’s Matt Cheetham touched upon earlier in the campaign:
Barkley perhaps destined for more of a box-to-box role. Huge fan, but doesn't provide the creativity/end product for a 10 at this stage.
— Matt Cheetham (@Matt_Cheetham) May 12, 2015
So where does his positional future lie?
Barkley is a player who needs the pitch to open up in front of him, and his game should be founded on those scintillating scorches that seamlessly turn defence into attack. His ability to carry the ball through the lines with pace and agility is what makes him such a special commodity, but with teams happy to sit in and restrict space against Everton this season, this luxury has scarcely been afforded to the Everton star.
Perhaps that’s why his best performances of the campaign came against Queens Park Rangers, when he was deployed as one of the two players in a double pivot, and Manchester United, when he was one of the two central players in a 4-1-4-1 system. Barkley is beginning to look more and more like an orthodox central midfield.
Of course, in the right game, he could be utilised a little further forward. Some of his most memorable displays in blue have come against Arsenal, a team who come forward, leave spaces and are notoriously flimsy at the base of their midfield. But sides who rock up at Goodison Park with a clear intention to restrict and frustrate are a completely different proposition; the space Barkley is shut off.
A deeper role could work in practice, but for Martinez, there are tactical factors to consider. Barkley’s lack of defensive diligence is one, as is his propensity for taking chances on the ball. In addition, withdrawing him would potentially further isolate Romelu Lukaku, who was starved of quality service last season.
With an intricate player likely to come in to fill the void left by the perennially injured Steven Pienaar, perhaps this kind of system, similar to the way Everton set up in that 3-0 victory over United back in April could be the best way forward for the Toffees:
It’d allow Gareth Barry to survey and dictate behind a four-man midfield and facilitate Barkley picking the ball up, driving into space and committing opponents.
The energy of James McCarthy would also supplement Barkley’s dearth of defensive instincts, while giving the Irishman the chance to get forward more often, a side of his game which improved greatly in the final embers of the campaign just done. Creativity would come primarily from wide players floating inside off the flanks and full-backs providing width in advanced areas.
If Martinez sees Barkley's long-term future being as a No. 8 rather than a No. 10, it's imperative he gets a prolonged run in that position from the outset of 2015/16. Nobody wants to see his talent diluted and shackled as a result of added responsibility, but the two roles are contrasting. Striking an appropriate balance between functionality and flair will be a substantial learning curve for the young man.
For a player who operates almost subliminally out on the pitch when at his best, refining the instincts required to be a major deeper in the team is critical. Barkley will have taken plenty from a volatile few months, but for Everton's sake, next season is the ideal time to give this homegrown star a chance to establish himself as the heartbeat of his team.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ey-for-ross-barkleys-development-with-everton
Positional Consistency Key for Ross Barkley's Development with Everton
Injury problems, poor form and impatience from his own fanbase conspired to make the 2014/15 season a miserable one for Ross Barkley.
After bursting onto the scene the previous campaign under the bold tutelage of new Everton manager Roberto Martinez, big things were expected of the midfielder in his second full season in the Toffees first team. But the England international has endured a regression in recent months.
To deny his talent on the back of one turbulent spell would be an improvident measure, for Barkley still has fearsome, frightening potential. However, to realise it fully, he needs to conquer all the aforementioned issues that have hindered him over the past 12 months and a few more to boot.
The hope among those of a blue persuasion is that a summer of recuperation will allow their midfielder to regain his swagger again; the end of an awful season for the team will hopefully see the supporters return with a much more understanding mindset in August, too. But Barkley also needs some positional consistency to be implemented from his manager.
In addition to the clutch of aforementioned factors, one of the main detriments to Barkley last season was the manner in which he was shifted around the Everton side.
He’s played in an orthodox No. 10 role primarily, but with the Catalan manager searching for a formula during some testing times, the England international was deployed on the right flank and left flank too. None of these positions suited Barkley's unique set of qualities, and some moribund performances prompted a severe downturn in confidence.
Martinez has made it abundantly clear that his primary target this summer is a creative, intricate midfielder, per Phil Kirkbride of the Liverpool Echo, something that would suggest the Spaniard, despite regularly picking Barkley in that spot this season, doesn’t see the 21-year-old as a key creative fulcrum.
For the many qualities Barkley has, innovative traits, which are vital for someone operating in this role, have been scarce in the relative infancy of his football career. During his time in the team, assists have been a rarity, and at the end of those trademark surges, his decision-making is erratic.
It’s something Bleacher Report’s Matt Cheetham touched upon earlier in the campaign:
Barkley perhaps destined for more of a box-to-box role. Huge fan, but doesn't provide the creativity/end product for a 10 at this stage.
— Matt Cheetham (@Matt_Cheetham) May 12, 2015
So where does his positional future lie?
Barkley is a player who needs the pitch to open up in front of him, and his game should be founded on those scintillating scorches that seamlessly turn defence into attack. His ability to carry the ball through the lines with pace and agility is what makes him such a special commodity, but with teams happy to sit in and restrict space against Everton this season, this luxury has scarcely been afforded to the Everton star.
Perhaps that’s why his best performances of the campaign came against Queens Park Rangers, when he was deployed as one of the two players in a double pivot, and Manchester United, when he was one of the two central players in a 4-1-4-1 system. Barkley is beginning to look more and more like an orthodox central midfield.
Of course, in the right game, he could be utilised a little further forward. Some of his most memorable displays in blue have come against Arsenal, a team who come forward, leave spaces and are notoriously flimsy at the base of their midfield. But sides who rock up at Goodison Park with a clear intention to restrict and frustrate are a completely different proposition; the space Barkley is shut off.
A deeper role could work in practice, but for Martinez, there are tactical factors to consider. Barkley’s lack of defensive diligence is one, as is his propensity for taking chances on the ball. In addition, withdrawing him would potentially further isolate Romelu Lukaku, who was starved of quality service last season.
With an intricate player likely to come in to fill the void left by the perennially injured Steven Pienaar, perhaps this kind of system, similar to the way Everton set up in that 3-0 victory over United back in April could be the best way forward for the Toffees:
It’d allow Gareth Barry to survey and dictate behind a four-man midfield and facilitate Barkley picking the ball up, driving into space and committing opponents.
The energy of James McCarthy would also supplement Barkley’s dearth of defensive instincts, while giving the Irishman the chance to get forward more often, a side of his game which improved greatly in the final embers of the campaign just done. Creativity would come primarily from wide players floating inside off the flanks and full-backs providing width in advanced areas.
If Martinez sees Barkley's long-term future being as a No. 8 rather than a No. 10, it's imperative he gets a prolonged run in that position from the outset of 2015/16. Nobody wants to see his talent diluted and shackled as a result of added responsibility, but the two roles are contrasting. Striking an appropriate balance between functionality and flair will be a substantial learning curve for the young man.
For a player who operates almost subliminally out on the pitch when at his best, refining the instincts required to be a major deeper in the team is critical. Barkley will have taken plenty from a volatile few months, but for Everton's sake, next season is the ideal time to give this homegrown star a chance to establish himself as the heartbeat of his team.
-----------------Besic---------------
---McCarthy-------------Barkley---
That's all I can see working at the minute with the way his game is panning out then making that either a 4-1-4-1 or a 4-3-3
---McCarthy-------------Barkley---
That's all I can see working at the minute with the way his game is panning out then making that either a 4-1-4-1 or a 4-3-3
Baines' left foot
Player Valuation: £90m
He needs to be more cre8iv!
johnnydawg68
Chairperson, People's Front of Saint Domingo
4-1-4-1 looks like the formation that works the best. But only if you have wingers who can provide an attacking threat and provide a threat in addition to Lukaku.
Hodgeson said Barkley was 19 in a press conference.
Just shows how badly he is managing him. He's treating him like a kid, giving him 10-minute cameos at the end of the game. That's not what he needs. He's never been an impact sub for us and he never, ever will be.
Just shows how badly he is managing him. He's treating him like a kid, giving him 10-minute cameos at the end of the game. That's not what he needs. He's never been an impact sub for us and he never, ever will be.
Chang Elephant
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The physique on this lad is frightening...he needs to be dominating and kicking the sht out of the opposition
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A rest?
GreenTeddy
Player Valuation: £8m
He is a beast but I'm beginning to worry he just doesn't have it upstairs to be a top quality player.
Next season is massive for him. Consistency and decision making are two of the most important things that differentiate's a good player from a truly great one.
Forget about this one lad and kick on next year!
Next season is massive for him. Consistency and decision making are two of the most important things that differentiate's a good player from a truly great one.
Forget about this one lad and kick on next year!
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