Abraders
Player Valuation: £60m
If it's of any worth, I would much rather have him just stayed at Wednesday all season to learn his trade. But clearly our thread bare squad needs another head.
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Essex Blue
Player Valuation: £10m
Coleman isn't a guaranteed starter at all, and he has only been given a go at RB because Hibbert and Neville have been injured or needed in midfield.
Your last sentence implies that I think Ross Barkley is crap or something, I don't, I can just see that he isn't ready for the Premiership yet.
Seeing as you asked me to list Barkley's mistakes in an Everton shirt, perhaps you could refer to all those wonderous moments that make you believe that he is more than ready for the Premiership?
Couple of goals for Sheff Wed - years beyond his age and those goals had no reflection on the league.
Cameo roles have provided enough to see his good touches vision etc etc. ive seen good things from him.
Im not saying he should be a first 11 definate starter! But surely there is a role for him in this injury hit squad!
Essex Blue
Player Valuation: £10m
Not just different circumstances but a completely different player. I honestly don't see what the development of any other player has to do with Ross Barkley?
I know people are citing young players that were given the opportunity to learn through first team football, but they are totally different players with differing levels of development, one has absolutely no bearing upon the other.
BigDunc'sFod
Player Valuation: £35m
I don't understand why the lad was ready to play in a 1-1 against stoke, but then not ready to come on against wigan, but can come on 2-1 down against Chelsea with 10 minutes left
He is not ready for regular premiership football from what I have seen (too inconsistent) but needs to be playing regularly before he can be ready, surely? I'd like to see him go on loan to a top-level european team, perhaps in the Dutch, French, German league etc. Or else be playing at a better side than Wednesday in his correct position (which is not CM at the moment).
I'd be happy to see him play from the start in a couple of games in place of Fritzlburger though, and be subbed out at HT if he's not cutting the mustard though. Or played out on the wing where any mistakes he makes will be less important.
He needs game time though. That was the most obvious thing from his recent performances. He'll come good but Moyes, the team and indeed the fans need to show more faith in him than treating him like a lazy Vic Anichebe (who was very good today, btw)
He is not ready for regular premiership football from what I have seen (too inconsistent) but needs to be playing regularly before he can be ready, surely? I'd like to see him go on loan to a top-level european team, perhaps in the Dutch, French, German league etc. Or else be playing at a better side than Wednesday in his correct position (which is not CM at the moment).
I'd be happy to see him play from the start in a couple of games in place of Fritzlburger though, and be subbed out at HT if he's not cutting the mustard though. Or played out on the wing where any mistakes he makes will be less important.
He needs game time though. That was the most obvious thing from his recent performances. He'll come good but Moyes, the team and indeed the fans need to show more faith in him than treating him like a lazy Vic Anichebe (who was very good today, btw)
BigDunc'sFod
Player Valuation: £35m
Yes but he went to Blackpool and was a key figure in their promotion push
Then when he came back he was a shining "super sub", which got him more game time
Abraders
Player Valuation: £60m
Promotion push is a far better resime (spelling?) than relegation battle at Sheff Wed too. He needs to loaned somewhere else, ro at least have the full year at Wednesday
Essex Blue
Player Valuation: £10m
He clearly has a lot of promise, and there have been instances of good touches, SOME good passing (some bad passing) and putting the ball in the back of the net in a Championship game is no easy task for any player! So he has shown some potential.
But I don't agree that he looks 'years beyond his age', in fact I think he very much looks like an inexperienced 19 year old who has an awful lot to learn, especially when it comes to decision making and time on the ball.
I think the Championship is a more than adequate league to serve his appreticeship, and I don't see the point in humiliating him and knocking his confidence through playing him in the Premiership before he is ready.
As I said earlier, it could be a couple more years before Barkley comes through properly.
BigDunc'sFod
Player Valuation: £35m
He has the physicality and the technical ability, but needs the experience. That is I think, what people are seeing. He is naive on the ball and seems to think he has more time than he actually has - but eradicating that will only come with playing at the level he is expected to perform at. There is a reason why players from the Championship get found out a lot of the time after promotion, because they need to find their feet.
bobafro
Player Valuation: £8m
Loan him to a free flowing attacking team that are in form like Watford.
And the fans abusing him on twitter need to grow up and get a life. Children the lot of them.
He's not ready to be a first team player for us with the first team that we have at the minute, if he came on the scene when Rooney did he'd have had a lot more game time but right now he's not going to displace fellaini, gibson osman etc.
And the fans abusing him on twitter need to grow up and get a life. Children the lot of them.
He's not ready to be a first team player for us with the first team that we have at the minute, if he came on the scene when Rooney did he'd have had a lot more game time but right now he's not going to displace fellaini, gibson osman etc.
Tom Huddlestone, Gareth Barry, Jack Wilshere... All current generation English stars who played aged 17/18 on a regular basis and benefited from it.
Paul Scholes, Steven Gerrard, Jamie Redknapp (lol)... Moving on from just English midfielders, we're seeing bright talents like Eden Hazard, Oscar, Raheem Sterling, Gareth Bale, James Milner, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain... All being used early and often.
The one thing they all have in common is playing regularly at the top level ASAP. They didn't all hit the ground running - Steven Gerrard admits his first season at Liverpool was horrible because of nerves - but they all benefited from faith shown in them and from consistent football.
If Moyes isn't going to play Barkley now, and prefer a 30 year old plus German who looks like he's here for a holiday unfortunately - or, even worse, the 35-year-old fraud we call a captain - for 90 minutes each and every week in midfield, then we may as well sell him now.
To be perfectly honest, if I were Ross, I'd be handing in the transfer request in January, even if it meant dropping down a division, because he has all the talent in the world but he's at the wrong club at the wrong time with the wrong manager.
I can understand the logic of not starting him all the time because we have to keep a rigid team shape and can't afford errors - but I can't understand only bringing him on for 10 minute cameos against stellar opposition when the game is already dead. It's almost as if Moyes is trying to deal him the worst possible hand he can.
Paul Scholes, Steven Gerrard, Jamie Redknapp (lol)... Moving on from just English midfielders, we're seeing bright talents like Eden Hazard, Oscar, Raheem Sterling, Gareth Bale, James Milner, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain... All being used early and often.
The one thing they all have in common is playing regularly at the top level ASAP. They didn't all hit the ground running - Steven Gerrard admits his first season at Liverpool was horrible because of nerves - but they all benefited from faith shown in them and from consistent football.
If Moyes isn't going to play Barkley now, and prefer a 30 year old plus German who looks like he's here for a holiday unfortunately - or, even worse, the 35-year-old fraud we call a captain - for 90 minutes each and every week in midfield, then we may as well sell him now.
To be perfectly honest, if I were Ross, I'd be handing in the transfer request in January, even if it meant dropping down a division, because he has all the talent in the world but he's at the wrong club at the wrong time with the wrong manager.
I can understand the logic of not starting him all the time because we have to keep a rigid team shape and can't afford errors - but I can't understand only bringing him on for 10 minute cameos against stellar opposition when the game is already dead. It's almost as if Moyes is trying to deal him the worst possible hand he can.
He wasn't even bad. People are forgetting when he came on he made two good tackles back in his own half and constantly drifted intelligently into space in the final third. He lost the ball twice - which every player on the pitch did at various intervals - and he's getting dogs abuse for it, because it's Ross Barkley.
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