Ross Barkley

[scratchnsurf]

If he leaves he's an embarrassment. Can't be having guys who grow up supporting us then turning their back at first opportunity. I know it's petty but the idea that someone can claim to be an Evertonian, and then even think about leaving, makes me absolutely sick.

How do you know this is the first opportunity he's had to leave?

 

[kenada_blue]

If he leaves he's an embarrassment. Can't be having guys who grow up supporting us then turning their back at first opportunity. I know it's petty but the idea that someone can claim to be an Evertonian, and then even think about leaving, makes me absolutely sick.

But he's not very good though, so what's wrong if he does leave?

 

[longers]

Mosh will look like a complete fraud if he does go after saying his main goal was to keep Stones, Lukaku and Barkley...

Within a year, all gone.

 

[ToffeeTim]

But he's not very good though, so what's wrong if he does leave?

He's good enough to be in our squad at very worst. I think he's good enough for us going forward. But if he wants out then let him go and show him up as a traitor. I don't like what he's doing here. Allowed himself to be tapped up. Very silly young man.

 

[MikeH72]

He'll be back here on loan in a year, Pienaar-esque.

 

[a bell maul]

He doesn't come across as having a hugely creative footballing brain, but he's still a very good player and I would be sad if he goes (which I do not think will happen).

 

[balggy]

As I have said till I am blue in the face, he gets no more and no less stick than anyone else. This is mischievous in the extreme by the media to give Ross an excuse to leave. We've heard it from Redknapp, Gerrard, "I wouldn't blame Ross if he left".

If he you want to hear abuse, go back to when Cleverly played, Kone plays, Tim Howard played, Neville played or delefeu played. Go on the Leon Osman thread and look at Evertonians calling him a grass and much worse. Actually go and read what @davek says about some of our established players in other threads.

All footballers get stick, one persons good performance is another persons poor performance. It's subjective and on an Internet forum people have differing views.

The fantastic Spurs fans who are going to give Ross so much time moaned loads in the early days about Bale and Kane. As a club they are renowned for buying players and sacking them off without giving them a chance, far far worse than Everton.

And yet I come on hear and read Evertonians saying we don't give players a chance. Absolute delusional.

I want Ross to stay at Everton and succeed as do 90% of blues. But unfortunately Ross is no longer a kid, he's not just potential, he's a 23 old man who is playing his fourth full season in the premier league and it is only right that he is judged as such.

If he leaves it won't be because of the fans, maybe he fancies London, more money, thinks more chance of an England place, winning things (good luck at spurs) but not the fans.

I don't know an Everton player who is more loved, not one. Lukaku has had much better performances than Ross this season but he will never be viewed in the same breath as Ross. At Middlesbrough away it was bonkers before the match, his name blurring out in the concourse.

The pressure from the Spurs fans will be so much greater, big price tag, not "one of there own". If his very delicate confidence goes, he'll be benched in a heartbeat.

"But, but, when he gives the ball away people moan". It's bloody football, of course they moan at any player. Unfortunately Ross gives it away more than most, so probably more moans.

If he goes to Spurs, with one year left on his contract he deserves more stick than Owen got / gets for leaving Liverpool for Real Madrid, far far worse.

The obvious blaring warning is Sissoko. They will spend very good money for someone to sit on the bench.

Depressed how some of our fans have bought the media con, wake up.

 

[davek]

As I have said till I am blue in the face, he gets no more and no less stick than anyone else. This is mischievous in the extreme by the media to give Ross an excuse to leave. We've heard it from Redknapp, Gerrard, "I wouldn't blame Ross if he left".

If he you want to hear abuse, go back to when Cleverly played, Kone plays, Tim Howard played, Neville played or delefeu played. Go on the Leon Osman thread and look at Evertonians calling him a grass and much worse. Actually go and read what @davek says about some of our established players in other threads.

Over the hill, too long established players.

 

[MACCA75]

If he goes to Spurs he'll be playing the Sissoko outcast role very quickly.

 

[Simon baker]

As I have said till I am blue in the face, he gets no more and no less stick than anyone else. This is mischievous in the extreme by the media to give Ross an excuse to leave. We've heard it from Redknapp, Gerrard, "I wouldn't blame Ross if he left".

If he you want to hear abuse, go back to when Cleverly played, Kone plays, Tim Howard played, Neville played or delefeu played. Go on the Leon Osman thread and look at Evertonians calling him a grass and much worse. Actually go and read what @davek says about some of our established players in other threads.

All footballers get stick, one persons good performance is another persons poor performance. It's subjective and on an Internet forum people have differing views.

The fantastic Spurs fans who are going to give Ross so much time moaned loads in the early days about Bale and Kane. As a club they are renowned for buying players and sacking them off without giving them a chance, far far worse than Everton.

And yet I come on hear and read Evertonians saying we don't give players a chance. Absolute delusional.

I want Ross to stay at Everton and succeed as do 90% of blues. But unfortunately Ross is no longer a kid, he's not just potential, he's a 23 old man who is playing his fourth full season in the premier league and it is only right that he is judged as such.

If he leaves it won't be because of the fans, maybe he fancies London, more money, thinks more chance of an England place, winning things (good luck at spurs) but not the fans.

I don't know an Everton player who is more loved, not one. Lukaku has had much better performances than Ross this season but he will never be viewed in the same breath as Ross. At Middlesbrough away it was bonkers before the match, his name blurring out in the concourse.

The pressure from the Spurs fans will be so much greater, big price tag, not "one of there own". If his very delicate confidence goes, he'll be benched in a heartbeat.

"But, but, when he gives the ball away people moan". It's bloody football, of course they moan at any player. Unfortunately Ross gives it away more than most, so probably more moans.

If he goes to Spurs, with one year left on his contract he deserves more stick than Owen got / gets for leaving Liverpool for Real Madrid, far far worse.

The obvious blaring warning is Sissoko. They will spend very good money for someone to sit on the bench.

Depressed how some of our fans have bought the media con, wake up.

Have you genuinely never been at the match or in the pub & heard the utter drivel people say about him seriously both my uncle & brother in law have had to walk out of the game before being ejected for arguing with idiots over his treatment. This isn't media talk it's real life events

 

[nsnojosh]

DCL being signing a contract within a day of being offered it says everything about where he's going this summer - almost certainly off it seems should a respectable offer come in. Wouldn't mind £40m at all, and clubs will pay that because he's English.

Obviously I'd love to see him succeed here and would rather keep than sell, but he's not irreplacable by any stretch of the imagination. He's about to turn 24 and is approaching his 5th season of PL football, but he's barely kicked on. I'm not so sure about this "world class potential" anymore.

 

[kenada_blue]

As I have said till I am blue in the face, he gets no more and no less stick than anyone else. This is mischievous in the extreme by the media to give Ross an excuse to leave. We've heard it from Redknapp, Gerrard, "I wouldn't blame Ross if he left".

If he you want to hear abuse, go back to when Cleverly played, Kone plays, Tim Howard played, Neville played or delefeu played. Go on the Leon Osman thread and look at Evertonians calling him a grass and much worse. Actually go and read what @davek says about some of our established players in other threads.

All footballers get stick, one persons good performance is another persons poor performance. It's subjective and on an Internet forum people have differing views.

The fantastic Spurs fans who are going to give Ross so much time moaned loads in the early days about Bale and Kane. As a club they are renowned for buying players and sacking them off without giving them a chance, far far worse than Everton.

And yet I come on hear and read Evertonians saying we don't give players a chance. Absolute delusional.

I want Ross to stay at Everton and succeed as do 90% of blues. But unfortunately Ross is no longer a kid, he's not just potential, he's a 23 old man who is playing his fourth full season in the premier league and it is only right that he is judged as such.

If he leaves it won't be because of the fans, maybe he fancies London, more money, thinks more chance of an England place, winning things (good luck at spurs) but not the fans.

I don't know an Everton player who is more loved, not one. Lukaku has had much better performances than Ross this season but he will never be viewed in the same breath as Ross. At Middlesbrough away it was bonkers before the match, his name blurring out in the concourse.

The pressure from the Spurs fans will be so much greater, big price tag, not "one of there own". If his very delicate confidence goes, he'll be benched in a heartbeat.

"But, but, when he gives the ball away people moan". It's bloody football, of course they moan at any player. Unfortunately Ross gives it away more than most, so probably more moans.

If he goes to Spurs, with one year left on his contract he deserves more stick than Owen got / gets for leaving Liverpool for Real Madrid, far far worse.

The obvious blaring warning is Sissoko. They will spend very good money for someone to sit on the bench.

Depressed how some of our fans have bought the media con, wake up.

So....he's not great but by god don't you leave us.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

As I have said till I am blue in the face, he gets no more and no less stick than anyone else. This is mischievous in the extreme by the media to give Ross an excuse to leave. We've heard it from Redknapp, Gerrard, "I wouldn't blame Ross if he left".

If he you want to hear abuse, go back to when Cleverly played, Kone plays, Tim Howard played, Neville played or delefeu played. Go on the Leon Osman thread and look at Evertonians calling him a grass and much worse. Actually go and read what @davek says about some of our established players in other threads.

All footballers get stick, one persons good performance is another persons poor performance. It's subjective and on an Internet forum people have differing views.

The fantastic Spurs fans who are going to give Ross so much time moaned loads in the early days about Bale and Kane. As a club they are renowned for buying players and sacking them off without giving them a chance, far far worse than Everton.

And yet I come on hear and read Evertonians saying we don't give players a chance. Absolute delusional.

I want Ross to stay at Everton and succeed as do 90% of blues. But unfortunately Ross is no longer a kid, he's not just potential, he's a 23 old man who is playing his fourth full season in the premier league and it is only right that he is judged as such.

If he leaves it won't be because of the fans, maybe he fancies London, more money, thinks more chance of an England place, winning things (good luck at spurs) but not the fans.

I don't know an Everton player who is more loved, not one. Lukaku has had much better performances than Ross this season but he will never be viewed in the same breath as Ross. At Middlesbrough away it was bonkers before the match, his name blurring out in the concourse.

The pressure from the Spurs fans will be so much greater, big price tag, not "one of there own". If his very delicate confidence goes, he'll be benched in a heartbeat.

"But, but, when he gives the ball away people moan". It's bloody football, of course they moan at any player. Unfortunately Ross gives it away more than most, so probably more moans.

If he goes to Spurs, with one year left on his contract he deserves more stick than Owen got / gets for leaving Liverpool for Real Madrid, far far worse.

The obvious blaring warning is Sissoko. They will spend very good money for someone to sit on the bench.

Depressed how some of our fans have bought the media con, wake up.

Excellent post. Agree fully.

 

[kenada_blue]

DCL being signing a contract within a day of being offered it says everything about where he's going this summer - almost certainly off it seems should a respectable offer come in. Wouldn't mind £40m at all, and clubs will pay that because he's English.

Obviously I'd love to see him succeed here and would rather keep than sell, but he's not irreplacable by any stretch of the imagination. He's about to turn 24 and is approaching his 5th season of PL football, but he's barely kicked on. I'm not so sure about this "world class potential" anymore.

He's on course to get the same assists as last season and finish in the top 10 for assists with some top company. Especially when he's the only English midfielder there.

May not have kicked on into world class-dom but consistency in a mid-table side with problems to be 3 or 4 assists away from your De Bryune's etc shows him to be a very valuable player.

He's not had tutoring at Ajax, in Belgium, Germany etc he's come through one of the worst generational footballing outputs this country has seen (IMO). Yet cos he's not pulling games out of his backside, we'll shrug and say he's not better than better players who cost a bomb

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

I think if he is considering leaving it may be more to do with Koemans desire to increase the goal tally from the midfield. If as supposed we sign our former player it will undoubtably be Barkley's place he's earmarked for . Perhaps he doesn't want to return to the bench at Everton, and fight for his place all over again. If he's going to have to fight for his place maybe he reasons he may as well do it at a top of the table club?