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Ross Barkley

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That is the key word there. We do not have any wing backs mate. Coleman is injured and Baines isn't what he was with Pienaar anymore.

You need wingers to draw the defenders away using their pace and trickery, esp when teams sit back against us at Goodison. Imagine teams packing 8 or 9 men near their box, will we still play the 65 to 70 M of attacking players just cos we bought them for a hefty sum? Klaassen and Sigu in the same team will be counter productive. Pace is after all pace and it will always have value.

Disagree. Pace is least effective when a team packs 8 or 9 men near their own box, there is no space for the quick players to run into. Pace is most effective on the counter attack.

Whereas a player with a bit of guile who can pick a pass or unlock a packed defence is more valuable when a team sits behind the ball
 
I'd be interested to know how the contract offer compares with the rest of the squad.

I'm a big fan of Ross, but both Gana & Schneiderlin came in last season & showed real consistency & value to the team. Probably what Koeman calls productivity. They do their job, no fuss, nothing flash, minimal mistakes. On the other hand, Barkley does a few flash things, looks brilliant, but then too often loses the ball. Should Ross be paid more than Gana & Scneiderlin? I would say no.

The emergence of Tom Davies should be another reminder to him. He may not have some of Ross' abilities, but his work rate & intelligence, quick feet, I would say he was possibly showing more value to the team than Ross.

With Klaassen coming in too, I can totally understand the club's take-it-or-leave-it approach. IMHO, he should sign it & get his head down, get back on track. Everton are moving forward with or without him.

This really. I wonder what's going through his head at the moment, with all the new players coming in and our obvious commitment to improve...........
 
This really. I wonder what's going through his head at the moment, with all the new players coming in and our obvious commitment to improve...........


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Should add, I like Barkley and hope he signs the new contract.
 
This really. I wonder what's going through his head at the moment, with all the new players coming in and our obvious commitment to improve...........

Koeman said months ago if Ross doesn't sign we will strengthen in his position and he will have a harder time getting in the team if he stays.

If Ross signed I imagine we'd be looking at improving other areas of the squad. Think him and his agent have bust on the river.
 
Koeman said months ago if Ross doesn't sign we will strengthen in his position and he will have a harder time getting in the team if he stays.

If Ross signed I imagine we'd be looking at improving other areas of the squad. Think him and his agent have bust on the river.
He's probably been tapped up months ago. He knows where he is going, just as Lukaku did.
 

He's probably been tapped up months ago. He knows where he is going, just as Lukaku did.
I think he would be gone by now, he's playing a dangerous game if he is trying to drive the fee down! A mate who Does medicals a Liverpool uni reckons Leicester have inquired!
 
I think he would be gone by now, he's playing a dangerous game if he is trying to drive the fee down! A mate who Does medicals a Liverpool uni reckons Leicester have inquired!
Could be the club waiting to lower the fee.
Makes little to nonsense that he is not signing the contract on offer if he doesn't know who is going to bid for him.
 
we'll get behind teams with our quickness of passing, they won't be able to live with us. So they'll just hack us down at every attempt. Then gylfi will either whip it in the top corner or right on giroud's nonce. I think we need to buy another striker who guarantees goals on top of rooney and sandro myself, them two and calvert-lewin aren't going to fire us to top 4.

I hope not.
 

That is the key word there. We do not have any wing backs mate. Coleman is injured and Baines isn't what he was with Pienaar anymore.

You need wingers to draw the defenders away using their pace and trickery, esp when teams sit back against us at Goodison. Imagine teams packing 8 or 9 men near their box, will we still play the 65 to 70 M of attacking players just cos we bought them for a hefty sum? Klaassen and Sigu in the same team will be counter productive. Pace is after all pace and it will always have value.


Do you think Baines suddenly lost the ability to cross? Or is he limited by Bolasie or the utterly useless Mirallas?

Don't need wingers. Looks like Koeman wants to pack the middle, keep possession. I'm happy with that.
 
Will be squeaky bum time for Ross if/when we sign Gylfi. Really sends the message 'You're not needed' to him and the doors aren't being smashed down to get him.
Reckon we'll see an end to this saga, one way or the other, this week


I reckon with Ross it will drag out till the end of the window, Spurs or who ever will wait till the end of the window to see if we drop our price as they will not the £50m price.

Thing is if no one comes in then what happens to Barkley ? I wonder the real reasons why he won't sign new contract.
 

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