Ross Barkley

ArtetaMoney · April 23, 2016

ArtetaMagic said:
Your username is too close to mine to spout such crap mate . Wind it in

Wind what in mate? Do you think Barkley has hit the potential he should have?

button_sw · April 23, 2016

Fitness levels and desire are severely lacking with Ross this season, I'm not sure why they are but thought he was a disgrace today tbh.

Has definitely played himself out of the Euro's, I can't imagine Hodgson was impressed watching today

Whistlin' Dixie · April 23, 2016

Tubey said:
Hahahahaha what??!

Classic.

Your words mate.

Tubey said:
It's not Barkley's fault that his teammates who are paid to defend don't do it properly.

ToffeeTim · April 23, 2016

Barkley will be immense next season under a proper manager with a proper system who has taught him how to pick the right moment to press.

More snidery and proper diving would be welcome too.

Elong · April 23, 2016

ArtetaMoney said:
Wind what in mate? Do you think Barkley has hit the potential he should have?

That doesn't make him a "expletive house" though does it?

He played alright today.

orly · April 23, 2016

Whistlin' Dixie said:
Right. I think I get it now....

Robles is not to use his feet/legs to save.

The defence must not go into the opposition box because they're defenders and paid to defend only.

Midfielders are not allowed in either final third as they're paid to be midfilders; and strikers must not go into their own half under any circumstances

Tubey logic.

You've had another nightmare here.

bluestevon · April 23, 2016

Whistlin' Dixie said:
Run into the ground? Not physically, because he didn't even stroll today. I appreciate there's a lot of expectancy placed on him, but he's an established player now. Martinez has given him the games and he hasn't produced in half of them. If Martinez has indulged Barkley, then Barkley's equally to blame for allowing himself to be indulged.

All players will tell you they don't care for much else as long as they get to play so it shouldn't matter about the management. He's getting games, so what's his excuse for today?

Whatever it is - I'm not buying it. That was indefensible as well as inexcusable.

Or maybe the managers instructions are actually at this stage actually impeding the way he plays rather than bribnging his game on mate?

as for players not caring as long as their playing mate, thats naive, given that who the manger is shouldn't really matter overly much.

But if you can't see that nearly everything good we as a team des comes through Barkley then your not watching the same team, no other midfielder in this league right now regularly finds himslef with 2-3 of the opposition around him like ross does, and that is down to are tactics and shape as ateam meaning he recieves it in traffic and usually with little options or movement around him.

What exactl was indefensible by him today exactly, he won the pen that should have drew us level, look absolutely gutted at the end and constantly showed for the ball all game long, look at the amount of games he has played mate before you say he isn't run into the ground though, IF he only produced in half the games then thats a damn site more than most players do, if they produce in more than that then your normally talking world class players mate - which right now Barkley obviously isn't yet

Whistlin' Dixie · April 23, 2016

mkrudden said:
Eh?

Essentially, Barkley's exempt from defending because according to tubey he's not paid to do that, his teammates are.

ArtetaMoney · April 23, 2016

mkrudden said:
Still not sure it makes him a s*** house mate

2 of the biggest games of the season this week and he was anonymous in both. He's not a big game player, hides away too often. That's where it comes from.

Tubey · April 23, 2016

Whistlin' Dixie said:
Your words mate.

So because I don't think Barkley's role is to defend (because it obviously isn't), that means I think EVERY player ever has absolute concrete, black and white roles, so much so even a bloody goalkeeper can only use his hands?

OK then! Plot = lost methinks!

mkrudden · April 23, 2016

Whistlin' Dixie said:
Your words mate.

Flair players are given less responsibility defensively.
His job is to score goals (9 league this season I think?) And create them (8 assists).

ArtetaMoney · April 23, 2016

Elong said:
That doesn't make him a "expletive house" though does it?

He played alright today.

He honestly didn't you know.

Elong · April 23, 2016

ArtetaMoney said:
2 of the biggest games of the season this week and he was anonymous in both. He's not a big game player, hides away too often. That's where it comes from.

Our entire team was though.

ArtetaMagic · April 23, 2016

ArtetaMoney said:
Wind what in mate? Do you think Barkley has hit the potential he should have?

Either way doesn't make him a sh1thouse mate

bluestevon · April 23, 2016

Whistlin' Dixie said:
Right, so he waits for them to do it, does he?

And while he's waiting, the roof caves in because the wooden beam holding it up fell over because nobody was available to knock the nails in.

Yeah the bloke who fitted my kitchen should have also fitted the toilet too whilst he was at it, would have saved me a bomb on the plumber