Really? How is that?
Look at the goals he's scored this season. Or the assists, and his general all-round play when he was on form.
He was very good up until March. His form dipped, coinciding with the poor form of the rest of the side.
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Really? How is that?
Look at the goals he's scored this season. Or the assists, and his general all-round play when he was on form.
He was very good up until March. His form dipped, coinciding with the poor form of the rest of the side.
gaino92
Power level over 9000
Flavour of the month alongside Rashford. Always the same with England
There is whoscored.com's English attacking midfielders stats for the season, its an empirical formula but they speak for themselves.
Premier League Player Statistics
Category:
Sub category:
Accumulation
1 Andros TownsendNewcastle United, 7.35
2 Ross BarkleyEverton, 7.35
3 Dele AlliTottenham, 7.32
4 Ryan BennettNorwich, 7.17
5 Wilfried ZahaCrystal Palace, 7.16
6 James MilnerLiverpool, 3 7.16
7 Troy DeeneyWatford, 7.12
8 Michail AntonioWest Ham, 1 7.10
9 Jack ColbackNewcastle United, 7.01
10 Wayne RooneyManchester United, 6.96
Premier League Player Statistics
Category:
Sub category:
Accumulation
1 Andros TownsendNewcastle United, 7.35
2 Ross BarkleyEverton, 7.35
3 Dele AlliTottenham, 7.32
4 Ryan BennettNorwich, 7.17
5 Wilfried ZahaCrystal Palace, 7.16
6 James MilnerLiverpool, 3 7.16
7 Troy DeeneyWatford, 7.12
8 Michail AntonioWest Ham, 1 7.10
9 Jack ColbackNewcastle United, 7.01
10 Wayne RooneyManchester United, 6.96
Personally, I'd take Rashford simply due to the momentum he has. But it wouldn't be at the cost of Barkley's place. You dump Sturridge if the lad is anything less than 100% fit
Kind of defeats my point about Townsend, though I suppose that is with his effect in the minutes he had.
yes he had less games which isnt great for a sample size - but Barley & Alli more or less had the same game time. Eriksen was much more of a factor for Spurs than Alli
Carlito
Player Valuation: £40m
I could be wrong, but I don't think he's ever played as an orthodox or holding centre mid for England, so it doesn't matter how much better he is than Henderson or Milner. Hodgson wouldn't trust him in a deeper role if his only other option was a deceased Carlton Palmer.
I fancy Wilshire to surprise a few people if he doesn't break down. I'm in the minority on here, but I rate him very highly.
As for Stones, he's been an accident waiting to happen this season. Cahill is nothing special, but the bar is so low that his knowledge of when to boot it into touch is enough to guarantee him a start.
They'd have been better off giving Shawcross a chance.
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/henry-winter-hodgson-should-not-ditch-barkley-fqz6dbgj9
(Henry Winter)
When preparing to play for England, Ross Barkley says that he summons up the image of Paul Gascoigne running at Holland during Euro ’96, doing Cruyff turns, playing one-twos, and being what Barkley calls the “go-to player”, a crowd-pleaser and risk-taker. Barkley needs to work harder to bring that image back into focus, and quickly.
Barkley is under increasing critical scrutiny. If it was down to pure form, the Evertonian might struggle to make the 23-man squad for Euro 2016 that Roy Hodgson announces today. He is only 22, but it is no exaggeration to claim that Barkley’s career is drifting. He has scored 14 times in 57 appearances for club and country this season, but has not found the mark for 17 games. His season has tailed off worryingly.
There is a special player lurking somewhere within this likeable Merseysider that needs to be brought out again
Back in October, Barkley excelled against Estonia and Lithuania, prompting Hodgson to describe him as a “bright, young talent”. The following month, as Barkley prepared to start against Spain in Alicante, Wayne Rooney, the England captain, who knows about the pressure on Everton starlets, observed that “he’s going to be a big player, not just in the Premier League but all over Europe”.
Wearing No 9, but playing as a No 10 behind Harry Kane, Barkley struggled, although he was not alone. Dele Alli has emerged to give England some of that attacking swagger from midfield, casting a shadow over Barkley’s involvement. The “diamond” that Gwladys Street sing so passionately about is in danger of losing his sparkle.
It is a sad development. Watching him in training at Watford’s London Colney retreat yesterday, Barkley looked bulky, as if he has spent too long in the gym at Finch Farm. He looks short on confidence, too. He has almost become circumspect in some of his journeys upfield with the ball, lacking the fearlessness that defined his breakthrough years.
Yet it would be madness to discard Barkley. England have too few match-changing forces, too few players with the rich potential of Barkley. He has balance and the athleticism of a schoolboy 400 metres runner. He is tall, imposing physically and blessed with an elegant touch, and should be difficult to dispossess.
England have long had a fear of flair, a trait that has limited their progress in tournaments, when the gifted should be cherished. Barkley needs persevering with, not passing over. Four people can reinvigorate him, starting with the player himself.
He needs to acknowledge the flaws. He is aware of the problems. This is a professional who studies video of Andrés Iniesta because the great Spaniard “doesn’t give the ball away”, one of Barkley’s weaknesses. He needs to eradicate those costly little passes that get picked, those runs into cul-de-sacs, when England can then get punished on the counter. He has to begin pressing more, even learning from Adam Lallana’s sharpened workrate. Barkley has to start tracking back more, contributing defensively, helping to protect a defence in urgent need of a shield. He could consult Paul Scholes, admittedly a very different player, on the art of opening up defences. Ultimately, a player has to be responsible for his own development, to keep striving to improve, as Iniesta still does at 32.
Two managers could make a difference. Hodgson needs to make Barkley believe in himself again. England’s manager has been encouraging him to operate more like a No 10, and has had him watching videos of Francesco Totti and Roberto Baggio. Yet Barkley is better running from deeper, such as when gliding from deep in his own half at St James’ Park in 2014, guiding the ball forward with his right foot, before cutting through Newcastle United’s defence and finishing with his left.
Barkley has not trained on under Roberto Martínez, the now dismissed Everton manager. The Spaniard did not force Barkley to develop his game more, becoming more of an all-round player, contributing defensively. Whoever succeeds Martínez at Goodison needs to demand more from Barkley, being stronger when he gives the ball away, while also encouraging him to dismantle defences.
The final figure has to be Steve Peters, the England psychologist. There could still be deep in Barkley’s mind the memory of that double fracture of the leg suffered during an England Under-19 game six years ago.
Barkley could be a formidable box-to-box player again, using his strength to win the ball, driving forward, and scoring. Some time spent quietly with Peters, who is always available to Hodgson’s players, could prove beneficial, helping to restore Barkley’s belief as he runs into tackles. There is a special player lurking somewhere within this likeable Merseysider that needs to be brought out again. But for England’s future, as well as his own, Barkley needs to go to France, training hard, rediscovering his mojo, and remembering how to impose himself on big games, as Gascoigne did.
(Henry Winter)
When preparing to play for England, Ross Barkley says that he summons up the image of Paul Gascoigne running at Holland during Euro ’96, doing Cruyff turns, playing one-twos, and being what Barkley calls the “go-to player”, a crowd-pleaser and risk-taker. Barkley needs to work harder to bring that image back into focus, and quickly.
Barkley is under increasing critical scrutiny. If it was down to pure form, the Evertonian might struggle to make the 23-man squad for Euro 2016 that Roy Hodgson announces today. He is only 22, but it is no exaggeration to claim that Barkley’s career is drifting. He has scored 14 times in 57 appearances for club and country this season, but has not found the mark for 17 games. His season has tailed off worryingly.
There is a special player lurking somewhere within this likeable Merseysider that needs to be brought out again
Back in October, Barkley excelled against Estonia and Lithuania, prompting Hodgson to describe him as a “bright, young talent”. The following month, as Barkley prepared to start against Spain in Alicante, Wayne Rooney, the England captain, who knows about the pressure on Everton starlets, observed that “he’s going to be a big player, not just in the Premier League but all over Europe”.
Wearing No 9, but playing as a No 10 behind Harry Kane, Barkley struggled, although he was not alone. Dele Alli has emerged to give England some of that attacking swagger from midfield, casting a shadow over Barkley’s involvement. The “diamond” that Gwladys Street sing so passionately about is in danger of losing his sparkle.
It is a sad development. Watching him in training at Watford’s London Colney retreat yesterday, Barkley looked bulky, as if he has spent too long in the gym at Finch Farm. He looks short on confidence, too. He has almost become circumspect in some of his journeys upfield with the ball, lacking the fearlessness that defined his breakthrough years.
Yet it would be madness to discard Barkley. England have too few match-changing forces, too few players with the rich potential of Barkley. He has balance and the athleticism of a schoolboy 400 metres runner. He is tall, imposing physically and blessed with an elegant touch, and should be difficult to dispossess.
England have long had a fear of flair, a trait that has limited their progress in tournaments, when the gifted should be cherished. Barkley needs persevering with, not passing over. Four people can reinvigorate him, starting with the player himself.
He needs to acknowledge the flaws. He is aware of the problems. This is a professional who studies video of Andrés Iniesta because the great Spaniard “doesn’t give the ball away”, one of Barkley’s weaknesses. He needs to eradicate those costly little passes that get picked, those runs into cul-de-sacs, when England can then get punished on the counter. He has to begin pressing more, even learning from Adam Lallana’s sharpened workrate. Barkley has to start tracking back more, contributing defensively, helping to protect a defence in urgent need of a shield. He could consult Paul Scholes, admittedly a very different player, on the art of opening up defences. Ultimately, a player has to be responsible for his own development, to keep striving to improve, as Iniesta still does at 32.
Two managers could make a difference. Hodgson needs to make Barkley believe in himself again. England’s manager has been encouraging him to operate more like a No 10, and has had him watching videos of Francesco Totti and Roberto Baggio. Yet Barkley is better running from deeper, such as when gliding from deep in his own half at St James’ Park in 2014, guiding the ball forward with his right foot, before cutting through Newcastle United’s defence and finishing with his left.
Barkley has not trained on under Roberto Martínez, the now dismissed Everton manager. The Spaniard did not force Barkley to develop his game more, becoming more of an all-round player, contributing defensively. Whoever succeeds Martínez at Goodison needs to demand more from Barkley, being stronger when he gives the ball away, while also encouraging him to dismantle defences.
The final figure has to be Steve Peters, the England psychologist. There could still be deep in Barkley’s mind the memory of that double fracture of the leg suffered during an England Under-19 game six years ago.
Barkley could be a formidable box-to-box player again, using his strength to win the ball, driving forward, and scoring. Some time spent quietly with Peters, who is always available to Hodgson’s players, could prove beneficial, helping to restore Barkley’s belief as he runs into tackles. There is a special player lurking somewhere within this likeable Merseysider that needs to be brought out again. But for England’s future, as well as his own, Barkley needs to go to France, training hard, rediscovering his mojo, and remembering how to impose himself on big games, as Gascoigne did.
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
Claudio Yacob is a good player for the role he does....
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
Wilshire played in most of the qualifiers and did well. He isnt my type of player but I can see why he would be going.
Townsend is a winger, again in relation to Barkley its totally irrelevent.
Yes his attitude was a disgrace. Being no more disgraceful than anybody else doesnt alter that. In my eyes there was a massive lack of trying.
Got to be honest though, I know its frowned upon and all that but I dont rate Barkley as highly as most. He has tons of talent but the mental side of his game just isnt there for me. Hopefully that will change at some point because if someone can put all his stuff together we will have a great player on our hands. Right now though he is nowhere near that for me.
Yet if Alli was supposedly as world-class as he is he'd have been able to find a way past him... is my point.
ijjysmith
Calm
We should probably sell all our players and start again then.
Why was it a disgrace though?
I don't think it was.
He was in poor form and his head dropped. He was trying, but it wasn't working and the whole team wasn't functioning. That's not disgraceful. It's football and it's human.
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