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Albro
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this 100%
so much unwarranted criticism from fans, but he is always played out of position. wouldn't even mind him playing a little deeper when we sign a true no.10
Rook
Player Valuation: £80m
Probably for his career the 1st season when he really broke out under Martinez might have hindered him a bit and placed undue expectations on him. Go back to that season and it was almost like everything he did found his way into the back of the net (there was even that one free goal in which he said he never even practiced free kicks before) and he was immediately annointed the best England player of his generation who was just going to get better and better when he was probably never that. You see a little bit of that with Dele Ali this year.
I think he's doing OK though, and maybe getting a bit of unfair stick. He's working hard though, and for the most part Barkley has always played well when the rest of the squad is playing well.
I think he's doing OK though, and maybe getting a bit of unfair stick. He's working hard though, and for the most part Barkley has always played well when the rest of the squad is playing well.
EFC78
Player Valuation: £25m
People aren't expecting him to be the finished article at 23, but it's not an excuse to be making the mistakes he does regularly. He's been playing at this level for 3 or 4 years now.
I can forgive some of the mistakes as well. It's when he shirks challenges and just strolls round half arsed. I also think to get to the top as a player you need to have a strong mentality, which he has shown at times, but not nearly enough.
Barkley is a great talent, and has certain attributes that most players in the Premier League simply don't possess, but at 23, I want to see more consistency from him and more effort in every game. He did that on Tuesday and I hope it continues along with the rest of them on Monday and beyond that.
Ernie
Player Valuation: £15m
He wouldn't get a sniff at any top 4 club, There's a reason he's been in and out of a very poor Everton side
kenada_blue
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Doesnt matter if he gets in the side.
But a cheap English player with his talent would be very interesting to top 4 clubs
Pabbers
Player Valuation: £60m
Yes they are, and you have just proved that by contradicting yourself in that first paragraph mate, by people going mad at his mistakes now and not allowing him to do them, are by definition expecting a complete player at 23, seems like you are also. 3 or 4 season is not a long time as a central midfielder.
The "strolls round half arsed" well he was actually instructed to not track back for 3 years....that's almost his entire career in our first team, so now he is having to change. He was also played out of position this entire time.
And I don't think he has been even half as inconsistent as is being made out. He has had 2 poor games. Which is allowed.
Their source is the s*n.
Tony Hibbert's 3rd leg
Banned as requested
Wonder if he'll get a tattoo of the date of his Spurs debut
...sorry, I thought it was an Express article. I'll remove it immediately. Cheers.
Id prefer to keep him and clear out some of the deadwood players to build round him
EFC78
Player Valuation: £25m
Well let me clarify then.... Those of us who want Barkley to succeed, and are actually supportive of our players. We have 2 types of fan and loads of them plague this forum. The ones who only post negatively all the time probably expect him to be perfect. There is then a vast majority who fall in to the second category who want the players to succeed and have different expectations from him.
I disagree that i've contradicted myself though. You said you "won't criticise young players" and I think that's the wrong mentality to have. It's also why he regressed as a player after 10 good games at the start of last season because that attitude from Martinez indulged him, and allowed him to be lazy and not put in 100% effort. When playing poorly he could have tried harder off the ball. But a combination of not wanting to, and Martinez telling him it was OK, has hindered his development and allowed the fans to get on his back.
Saying he has only had 2 poor games is ridiculous as well, he's had loads. And your comment about being instructed to not track back for 3 years as if that's acceptable, and the fact that he never openly challenged that ridiculous flaw in managerial judgement from Martinez is why he is not at the level a lot were expecting him to be at this stage in his career.
Again though, he has a lot of top class attributes to his game, and they are a huge positive to the team. Some of his touches and play on the ball on Tuesday were top class.
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